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Old 11-07-2005, 03:43 AM
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Default 55: i hate jacks!!

***** Hand History for Game 2995518339 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:17207949 Level:1 Blinds(10/15)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: HERO ( $1055 )
Seat 8: BLACK_JAK111 ( $1000 )
Seat 10: pro077 ( $990 )
Seat 6: chitown188 ( $1115 )
Seat 7: bmfwalking ( $925 )
Seat 9: IMAKEMONEY8 ( $1000 )
Seat 2: BIGMAMA138 ( $965 )
Seat 1: ca2step ( $1680 )
Seat 5: dhruvybaby ( $345 )
Seat 4: ronmax11 ( $925 )
Trny:17207949 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jc Jh ]
IMAKEMONEY8 folds.
chitown188: j7
pro077 folds.
ca2step folds.
BIGMAMA138 folds.
HERO calls [15].
ronmax11 raises [75].
dhruvybaby folds.
chitown188 folds.
bmfwalking folds.
BLACK_JAK111 folds.
HERO calls [60].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, 6d, 7h ]
HERO checks.
ronmax11 bets [175].
HERO ?????

should i have lead out on the flop???
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: 55: i hate jacks!!

Um...push?
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: 55: i hate jacks!!


I'm going to raise him here, he sure didn't raise pf with 45, I think you're ahead.
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: 55: i hate jacks!!

a min raise woulda been no good????
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:52 AM
DPCondit DPCondit is offline
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Default Re: 55: i hate jacks!!

Another 175 back to him looks good to me.
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: 55: i hate jacks!!

If you are this scared of flopping an overpair you should really ask yourself if poker is the right game for you.
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: 55: i hate jacks!!

I think some people are going to call me crazy, but with no reads I fold this 100% of the time. Good luck against QQ+.
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: 55: i hate jacks!!

He's overplaying the hand. Most people overplay AK and underplay KK/AA (and usually QQ on that flop). Push. A check-raise all-in is perfect here.
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: 55: i hate jacks!!

how about raising preflop? people dont do that? :S
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: 55: i hate jacks!!

There is some seriously questionable advice in this thread;

- If you're scared of overpairs don't play poker?
- Check fold flop?
- Check raise all-in (this lets villain play very well, although we're getting better)?

What about addressing the pf limp and the flop check?

I really don't like the limp preflop, but people have been talking alot about doing precisely that lately. Certainly would be easier to play this hand had you raised.

If you are going to have no idea what to do if the flop goes check - bet, which it will alot, then bet out here. If you get lots of action you can fold, if you're called you can re-evaluate, and there's nothign wrong with taking it down. While check-raising may get more out of overcards, you risk giving free cards, and you are pretty much committing yourself in a spot where most villains are going to be able to play perfectly against you (i.e. drop worse hands, stack you with better ones). Obviously not perfectly, but well.

So I raise pf and I lead the flop for about 2/3.
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