Hand 22 anyone take Clarkmeister line on scary river

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Check/call, check/call, bet/call. Don't bet/fold.

Rob

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Why not bet/call on the flop? Top pair seems too strong a hand in this situation to play this passively.

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I'd really like 88 and JJ and KQ and such to keep firing away here.

Rob

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Someone please explain this too me.

Why exactly are you checking here? I seriously don't get it. Are you checking the flop in order to pop a non heart on the turn? I could see that line.

Of course, you just call the turn too. So, I really don't get it. Do you think YHIG and he is agro enough to keep betting it for you? Do you think you are probably beat and you are just calling your pair of aces down?

Even with the 3 bet on flop from him, I would think we are ahead most of the time. AA beats us, but I could see him 3 bet all the way down to 66 easily. If he thinks you are trying to steal, he might pop you back with any 2 just to bloody your nose.

I am not doing well at all in 6 max. I have never played a limit this high. So when I say "someone please explain this too me." I mean it without sarcasm. This hand just makes no sense to me at all.


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Basically what we are trying to do here is get the most out of our hand when we are ahead, and lose the least when we are behind.

If villian has an A here, he has us WB, but if he has JJ or QQ or KK we are WA, so let him bet the flop and the turn, which he will likley do with any hand he 3 bets pf with.

If we lead the flop and get raised then what, he either just made us think we are behind with KK or QQ, or he has us beat with his AQ+. Getting raised either way is bad.

But we want to lead the river b/c, if he has QQ or KK, he may check thru thinking we are calling with a weak A. Also, it is harder for him to raise a river bet out of nowhere. So we usually just get called. Hence we win the most when ahead ,and lose the least when behind.

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Check/call, check/call, bet/call. Don't bet/fold.

Rob

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Check/call, check/call, bet/call. Don't bet/fold.

Rob

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Why not bet/call on the flop? Top pair seems too strong a hand in this situation to play this passively.

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When you get a lot of action from Villain you're usually behind and drawing very slim but can't fold TP. Conversely, there's a good chance he folds pre-showdown when you're ahead and show aggression.

Passive play isn't always a sign of timidity. Here it's about extracting the most when you're ahead and losing the least when you're behind. Aggression probably accomplishes the opposite.