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02-16-2005, 12:55 PM
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Party $15/$30, pocket 9\'s
Party $15/$30, 9 handed.
I don't have the hand history, but here is how it went down, I am UTG+2 with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG+1 open raises.... I have notes on UTG+1, he is a little bit on the loose aggressive side, but not a total donk. Something like VP$IP: 28% PFR: 15% ... I 3-bet, folded around to the BB who calls, UTG+1 caps, we call 3 players (6BB) Flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG+1 bets, I call, BB calls. 3 players (7.5BB) Turn: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG+1 bets, I raise, BB calls, UTG+1 3-bets, I call, BB calls 3 players (16.5BB) River: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG+1 bets, I call, BB folds. Comments? Anyone play it different? Results to follow. 
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#2
02-16-2005, 01:07 PM
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Re: Party $15/$30, pocket 9\'s
You've got a one card straight draw to the ass end, and you don't have the 9 of clubs.
I'm for folding this on the flop.
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#3
02-16-2005, 01:09 PM
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Re: Party $15/$30, pocket 9\'s
I was thinking this, and wasn't sure if it was too weak. I mean, it is "open ended" but if you hit the king you can't be very confidant.
I fold the flop too.
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#5
02-16-2005, 02:03 PM
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Re: Party $15/$30, pocket 9\'s
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I wouldn't have raised the turn - assuming you ARE ahead, any club, pair or A / K / 9 on river is bad news [/ QUOTE ] ...but that is why I raised the turn. If my hand is currently best I wanted to protect it by facing the BB with two bets cold. I would like him to fold any random club or other pair+gutshot type hand he might have, or at least charge him the max.
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#6
02-16-2005, 02:47 PM
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Re: Party $15/$30, pocket 9\'s
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...but that is why I raised the turn. If my hand is currently best I wanted to protect it by facing the BB with two bets cold. [/ QUOTE ] That's a good idea vs the BB, but UTG1 hasn't slowed down a step. What hand would he play this way, from this position, you're ahead of?
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#8
02-16-2005, 03:00 PM
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Re: Party $15/$30, pocket 9\'s
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That's a good idea vs the BB, but UTG1 hasn't slowed down a step. What hand would he play this way, from this position, you're ahead of? [/ QUOTE ] When it is my action on the turn here is the range of hands I think he could have: AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, AK, AQ ... maybe KQs, 88. I beat all of those except for AK...but I have to start giving more weight to it after his turn reraise. He's a little loose aggressive, but he did cap preflop, so okay even restricting it to AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK. I still beat most of those.
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#9
02-16-2005, 03:22 PM
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Re: Party $15/$30, pocket 9\'s
What about AQ clubs? He flops top pair, top kicker...turns the nuts. Seems like a possiblity with his VPIP and PRF percentages.
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#10
02-16-2005, 03:37 PM
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Re: Party $15/$30, pocket 9\'s
And for the record, I am in the fold your hand on the flop camp. Given his preflop cap, it is basically impossible that you are ahead on the flop unless he is on a pure bluff. You have to make a hand on the turn or river to get ahead, but if a king hits, you have the ass end, and if you hit your set a king beats you. That really only leaves you 4 outs, and even the 8 of clubs could hurt you, as I suspect it did. This all assumes he is not on AK, which beats you anyway. I think you are beat by too many hands here and have too dangerous of a draw to call any bets on the flop.
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