Turn semi bluff play

ArturiusX · #1 12-02-2005, 12:13 AM

I've been trying to implement these more and more into my game. Villian is a 19/6/3, seems reasonablish, if not to tight/weak.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB folds.

Final Pot: 4 BB

jason_t · #2 12-02-2005, 01:44 AM

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I've been trying to implement these more and more into my game. Villian is a 19/6/3, seems reasonablish, if not to tight/weak.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB folds.

Final Pot: 4 BB

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I'm so confused by the pot size.

ArturiusX · #3 12-02-2005, 01:50 AM

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I've been trying to implement these more and more into my game. Villian is a 19/6/3, seems reasonablish, if not to tight/weak.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB

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danzasmack · #4 12-02-2005, 01:50 AM

i think it's best to not show that he folded here.

If you think he is weak/tight i like it. What do you do if he calls though? Donk a blank river?

BTW i c/r an ace river if he calls.

ArturiusX · #5 12-02-2005, 01:52 AM

Good point. For some reason this board doesnt allow editing after about 20 min, which is stupid, but eh. If a mod wants to edit, that would be nice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

imported_leader · #6 12-02-2005, 05:58 AM

I can't think of a better spot for this really. You're not losing much even when it doesn't work and it should work enough. I don't think he's calling an underpair here. He may fold a weak T. A-high's gone for sure with this guy. What's your plan if he calls and you miss?

Victor · #7 12-02-2005, 06:01 AM

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If you think he is weak/tight i like it.

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i dont think his opponent made a weak tight play here.

ArturiusX · #8 12-02-2005, 06:24 AM

Anything he calls with I think has me toast unless I hit an out.

Here's some interesting scenarios:

Q. Can I fold the river if I catch this?

K. Check-call.

A. Check-raise.

Any blank. This is tough, because I don't have enough information to know if he peels with AK/AQ. Because he has some outs he might do it, thus I'm inclined to bet again. What do you guys think?

imported_leader · #9 12-02-2005, 06:38 AM

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Anything he calls with I think has me toast unless I hit an out.

Here's some interesting scenarios:

Q. Can I fold the river if I catch this?

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Bet/fold is fine. I wouldn't c/f. He'll have AJ/KJ enough. I doubt he's bluff raising much after what you pulled on the turn.

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K. Check-call.

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Again I bet because I just can't see him raising you with something you bet. Plus I doubt he bets anything that he would fold to a bet.

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A. Check-raise.

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Really depends on weather you think he'll peel AK/AQ

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Any blank. This is tough, because I don't have enough information to know if he peels with AK/AQ. Because he has some outs he might do it, thus I'm inclined to bet again. What do you guys think?

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He has AK/AQ 1-9 times and folds...Could be true. Not by much though.