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Old 09-29-2005, 04:58 AM
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Default An Easy One? 12/24

Its a great game with lots of loose players. I raised with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG and was three bet by a player nicknamed "The Rock" because he was so solid. Called behing in 1 place and the blinds came along as well, and i called.

FLOP: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Blinds check, I.....?
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:21 AM
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Default Re: An Easy One? 12/24

... bet then raise my eyebrows and glare at Rocky hoping to tell if he's happy to be bet into or mad at being outflopped.
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:26 AM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Default Re: An Easy One? 12/24

Betting this ace makes no sense. Everyone without an ace or a 6 or a club draw will fold and your chance to win at showdown hasn't increased. If you bet and get called you are likely behind. If you check and the 3-better bets out the pot is large enough that the instances he will bet out again with kk, qq and jj (and your kicker may beat the blinds) and the instances where he has ak and it will be a split, justifies a call.
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Old 09-29-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: An Easy One? 12/24

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Its a great game with lots of loose players. I raised with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG and was three bet by a player nicknamed "The Rock" because he was so solid. Called behing in 1 place and the blinds came along as well, and i called.

FLOP: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Blinds check, I.....?

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I check, PFR bets (From his mannerisms it looks like he doesn't like the Ace) folded to the button who thinks and reluctantly raises and sits back in his chair, SB cold calls, I...?
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Old 09-29-2005, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: An Easy One? 12/24

I fold, unless these players always express their real emotions...
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Old 09-29-2005, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: An Easy One? 12/24

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "Unless these players axpress their true emotions". And I was confident in my read that the pre-flop raiser did not have an ace (95%).
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Old 09-29-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: An Easy One? 12/24

The way the action is back to you, 3-bet. Then play the hand from there based on the action. You can't possibly fold here, not yet.

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Old 09-29-2005, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: An Easy One? 12/24

The only purpose 3 betting serves here is to knock out the PFR (The Rock). Do I really want to do that when he is probably drawing to 2 outs?

Edit: He can probably call profitablly for his 2 outer is I dont three bet, hm.....
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Old 09-29-2005, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: An Easy One? 12/24

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Can you elaborate on what you mean by "Unless these players axpress their true emotions".

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Players that acts like thay didn't like the flop and still raises will often have a good hand (I'm no expert since I don't play at casinos).

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And I was confident in my read that the pre-flop raiser did not have an ace (95%).

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If this is true folding is not an option. I would probably 3-bet.
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Old 09-29-2005, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: An Easy One? 12/24

bet!why?you are hoping that the 3 bettor raises to protect his hand by driving out the hands that have a weak draw containg a single club weather its an 8 of clubs or a king of clubs.if u dont bet out and the rock bets now a player with pocket 10s with the 10 of clubs may call .remember if a raise changes the winning percentage of ur hand by as little as 2 or 3% its a good raise.
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