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Old 12-04-2005, 11:47 PM
mowz mowz is offline
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Default Re: Does anyone play this differently?

Raise the flop or change your name
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Does anyone play this differently?

The SB just bet into a preflop raiser. I don't think there is a preflop raising hand that DIDN'T hit this board.

The SB knows that and says [censored] you, I'm betting anyway.

I call the flop.

I raise the turn. You just counterfiet his two pair and he may lay down a 9. I fold to a 3bet.

I bet/fold the river UI.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:54 AM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: Does anyone play this differently?

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The SB just bet into a preflop raiser. I don't think there is a preflop raising hand that DIDN'T hit this board.

The SB knows that and says [censored] you, I'm betting anyway.

I call the flop.


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He could be leading into us to protect his hand on the dangerous board. Even if we are behind, and there we have no real info to say we are, we obviously improve a lot.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:01 AM
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IMO. Anybody who calls 1 on this flop, calls 2.

And you're not folding SB.

So now you're raising for value or a free card. The only reason you get a free card is if you're ahead anyway and you're not taking it. That leaves value.

IMO There is more value in raising the turn.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: Does anyone play this differently?

I raise the flop to get button out and get value from SB.
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Old 12-05-2005, 06:04 AM
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I can't think of many times that I've limped and folded to aggression preflop. Possibly when I was just starting out playing poker. That tells me that the villion has a weak streak about him. I picture the villion in this hand to be a little old lady in live games who scares people when she calls, let alone bets.

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Guh. A lot of reasonable players open-limp with weak hands (e.g., deuces UTG) hoping to create implied odds for themselves, only to give up the chase when it's 2SB back to them. It's not that unusual, and you're reading too much into it regardless: TPGK+OESD is too good not to raise at least once in this spot.
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