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Old 10-12-2005, 09:48 PM
PokerMike PokerMike is offline
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Default AA vs LoisLane and Erik1234

The donator just left the table and Erik1234 took his seat, obviously this is my last orbit at the table. For those that don't know, Erik is a force to be reckoned with and Lois isn't that great, but not that bad either(she is 36/24/1.8 filtered for 5.4 players).

Erik opens UTG, LoisLane 3bets UTG+1 and i cap A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] right behind them. Three of us see a 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] flop for many small bets. Erik checks, Lois checks, i bet, Erik c/r's, Lois 3bets, i cap and they both call. Turn is where it gets interesting. A 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] comes and they both check again. I valuebet and now Eric c/r's, Lois folds.

Normally this is an easy calldown and a 3bet would be spewing, but i'm not sure if 3betting is out of the question because of Eric's turn play. Whats his hand range here? AA/KK/QQ/99/XcXc? If i am behind to a flush or full then why would Erik c/r here and force Lois out? He'd be passing up on getting value out of Lois here.

I just called, but am wondering if an argument can be made for 3betting. I asked stox and at first glance he said a 3bet is spewing, but at second glance maybe not.
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Old 10-12-2005, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: AA vs LoisLane and Erik1234

I think when you cap the flop, he does not c/r the turn very often without a hand that beats yours, and you definitly don't want to expose yourself to a cap here. I like a call down.
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Old 10-12-2005, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: AA vs LoisLane and Erik1234

I think a three-bet is good. He could VERY easily have KK(club or not) or even QQ. I think it's unlikely enough that you are behind here, Erik is very very aggro.
-James
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Old 10-12-2005, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: AA vs LoisLane and Erik1234

Ok well James made 160k last month, i have changed my stance [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: AA vs LoisLane and Erik1234

Is there any way Erik would fold QQ or KK with no club to your turn 3 bet?
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: AA vs LoisLane and Erik1234

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Ok well James made 160k last month, i have changed my stance [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Well I switched to Nl for a while because I was in a big downswing in limit, so who knows [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] This game does play insanely aggro though. Hero's cap could mean TT from time to time. Seriously.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: AA vs LoisLane and Erik1234

"yeah so i decided to dick around with NL a little and accidently won a small condo somewhere"

FU. Seriously though James, the interview was very cool, i got a lot out of it. Interesting that this game is THAT aggro where TT/JJ ever cap the flop after this action.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: AA vs LoisLane and Erik1234

I'm also thinking that calling the turn and raising the non club river might not be a bad line either.
-James
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: AA vs LoisLane and Erik1234

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I'm also thinking that calling the turn and raising the non club river might not be a bad line either.
-James

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Do you fold if he 3 bets the river?
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: AA vs LoisLane and Erik1234

I like the 3-bet if that is the last money you put in the pot! And I like it much better than calling down. BTW Erik's hand ranges is wider here than you suggest.
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