20/40 River Problem

[ALL1N]

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ANY overpair also pays this off (different situation entirely if your raise had come in a non-steal situation, but IMO you raise this river, call a 3-bet).

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Do yourself a favor and count up the number of hand that pay off the raise vs. the number of hands that 3-bet hero for value. Some decisions are close -- this one is not. You better be able to read the BB like a book to make this play anywhere near profitable.

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Do you realise that said opponent smooth-3bet the flop? Does this mean nothing to your read of his hand? Putting him on an overpair here is quite ridiculous, IMO.

[teddyFBI]

it's a steal/resteal situation -- throw away what you think you know about their hands. The idea that someone would think about not raising this river gives me hope for the future of the 20/40.

[PokerMike]

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it's a steal/resteal situation -- throw away what you think you know about their hands. The idea that someone would think about not raising this river gives me hope for the future of the 20/40.

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How many times have you seen a flop call-3bet be a steal/resteal? How many times has it been a monster/monster draw?

[teddyFBI]

Here's a free lesson for you, and the last post i'll make in this rather unbelievable thread. You won't get very far trying to get cute based on your reads in steal/resteal situations.
This is a raise.
Feel free to play it differently in your own game. It will be wrong.

[etizzle]

lol

[Justin A]

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Here's a free lesson for you, and the last post i'll make in this rather unbelievable thread. You won't get very far trying to get cute based on your reads in steal/resteal situations.
This is a raise.
Feel free to play it differently in your own game. It will be wrong.

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Teddy,
ALL1N plays better than you. You should be learning from him, and you're certainly in no position to be giving lessons.

[ALL1N]

Thanks for your superior wisdom. Perhaps you also recommend abandoning handreading altogether.

[NLSoldier]

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Here's a free lesson for you, and the last post i'll make in this rather unbelievable thread. You won't get very far trying to get cute based on your reads in steal/resteal situations.
This is a raise.
Feel free to play it differently in your own game. It will be wrong.

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Teddy,
ALL1N plays better than you. You should be learning from him, and you're certainly in no position to be giving lessons.

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This is a pretty riduclous thing to say, considering youve never seen either of them play. That said, I agree with you, but I think Teddy makes some good points and I think this river is a raise.