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Old 12-27-2005, 12:30 AM
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Default Party 1/2 2 AK hands turn fold?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4.75 BB

Both villains were loose and unpredictable. They were also winning. The 2nd hand CO could be on a flush draw, but i thought it was unlikely HU.
Should I go to showdown in at least one of the hands?
Or call and fold the river if not improved?
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 2 AK hands turn fold?

You didn't have outs to call in either case, I like both folds.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 2 AK hands turn fold?

Zingy,

with those reads, tough to say, they could be donk-bluffing, or they could have some raggedy nonsense. On hand 2 I raise the flop and see what happens with that. It might buy you a free card on the turn. However the pots are not too huge so maybe a fold isn't bad either.

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Old 12-27-2005, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 2 AK hands turn fold?

I'm not into the flop raise in Hand 1.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 2 AK hands turn fold?

On the 1st hand he paused a bit before betting on the turn, which tells me the heart prolly worried him. But I really didnt think I could move him off the hand by representing flush.

On the 2nd hand I shoulda raised the flop for info, but that woulda give a bigger headache on the turn...
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 2 AK hands turn fold?

is pausing a bit really an indication that he is worried? It can seriously go either way.
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 2 AK hands turn fold?

Pots aren't big enough in either hand to call down.
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Old 12-27-2005, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 2 AK hands turn fold?

I think it's only worth fighting with these types of hands if you have someone deliberately targetting you (who is willing to fold), and you have more balls than they do. In any other situation, these are folds, maybe with a raise on the flop in both to try to extract a free card.
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