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#1
10-18-2005, 08:43 AM
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Call this river raise? Flush with paired board on river
50NL Full Ring Ultimate Bet Hero and Villain both have $50. Villain is in MP and I haven’t noticed him doing anything crazy. Hero is in BB. Preflop: Villain limps in MP, button calls, SB completes, and Hero checks in BB with 10s 2s. ($2) Flop: Ks Jh 3s checked to Villain who bets $1, folded around to Hero who calls. ($4) Turn: Ks Jh 3s 5s Hero checks, Villain checks. [I don’t know why I checked. I bet here about 99% of the time, so I know that was stupid.] ($4) River: Ks Jh 3s 5s Jd Hero bets $4 and Villain raises to $14, Hero? 
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#2
10-18-2005, 08:54 AM
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Re: Call this river raise? Flush with paired board on river
Hmm, tough one. Your check on turn makes this a lot harder. He can have AJ and think you don't have the flush because you checked. But I think he filled up. Would he really overbet that much without a house or a better flush? With AJ he would probably just minraise trying to extract more froma a hopefully worse hand. If he is trying to steal, why was he checking on turn? Well, I think I would fold this one.
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#3
10-18-2005, 09:05 AM
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Re: Call this river raise? Flush with paired board on river
instacall imo
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#5
10-18-2005, 10:13 AM
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Re: Call this river raise? Flush with paired board on river
yeah, why instacall?
This hand happened a couple of days ago and has been bothering me every since. In part, because I donk checked the turn (this is exactly the reason why I always bet the turn), but also because I think this is a tough decision.
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#6
10-18-2005, 10:16 AM
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Re: Call this river raise? Flush with paired board on river
Because I think villian (we don't have very much info on him though) woulda bet the turn with 2 pair or a set. But OK, it's not an insta call in retrospect, a call though IMO.
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#7
10-18-2005, 10:36 AM
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Re: Call this river raise? Flush with paired board on river
[ QUOTE ]
Because I think villian (we don't have very much info on him though) woulda bet the turn with 2 pair or a set. But OK, it's not an insta call in retrospect, a call though IMO. [/ QUOTE ] This is definitely a valid consideration. I guess some of what i was thinking was that it was entirely possible that he checked behind on the turn with top two. He could easily have thought that I was on the draw and made it on the turn, which was of course true. If he was in fact worried about the flush, he could have checked the turn and then raised the river with the boat. I think he could have also hit a better flush on the turn and decided to slowplay it and then played it real fast on the river even with the pair on board. But he could also have bet the flop with something like A-J and just be overplaying trips on the river...I don't know. That's why this has been bothering me.
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#8
10-18-2005, 12:24 PM
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Re: Call this river raise? Flush with paired board on river
Well, you already said it yourself: bet the turn.
As played, though, I definitely call this. I don't see villain playing flopped 2 pair or set this way.
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#9
10-18-2005, 01:20 PM
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Re: Call this river raise? Flush with paired board on river
Villain looks much more likely to play ja-j10 than a set/2 pair this way.
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