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I hate top pair mid kicker
I think these type of hands, where I flop top pair with a questionable kicker, are my biggest leak right now. Comments appreciated.
MP2 and SB are fish, while MP3 is slightly loose but aggressive. UltimateBet 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: (4 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls. Turn: (4 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls. River: (10 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero folds, MP2 folds. Final Pot: 11 BB |
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Re: I hate top pair mid kicker
I think there's too much in this pot to give it up like that on the river, especially since I put Villian on a wide range of hands here (note: I'm not giving him credit for an ace, ever)
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Re: I hate top pair mid kicker
Your river fold is awful. The rest is fine.
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Re: I hate top pair mid kicker
My 2 cents..
Preflop: Fine, Some might say Raise? Flop: Fine Turn: FIne (Prob hit 2pair) River: Dont fold, Call. |
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Re: I hate top pair mid kicker
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I think there's too much in this pot to give it up like that on the river, especially since I put Villian on a wide range of hands here (note: I'm not giving him credit for an ace, ever) [/ QUOTE ] He raised a blank on the turn. He's unlikely to be bluffing the ace unless he's got a great pattern mapper. What "wide range of hands" do you have him on at the turn, and why? |
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Re: I hate top pair mid kicker
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I think these type of hands, where I flop top pair with a questionable kicker, are my biggest leak right now. [/ QUOTE ] Its a gigantic leak if you fold on the river every time like that. |
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Re: I hate top pair mid kicker
He raises the 2(non scare card), So i put him on Kx?
No preflop raise so AK out the question maybe? Or hes just passive. I'm calling the river everytime unless i have reads. What do you put him on? Do you fold this river then? |
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Re: I hate top pair mid kicker
My guess is he hit 2 pair. SSH says its ok to pay off on the river sometimes. Don't freak out over strange bets. Your kicker is is probably not the issue.
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Re: I hate top pair mid kicker
What do you put him on? Do you fold this river then?
My guess is that villain has a set or two pairs. I'm fairly sure that hero is beaten over 90% of the time here, which makes a fold correct. However, next similar situation at the same table I would call, given that some observant opponent might have picked up on the fold. |
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Re: I hate top pair mid kicker
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He raises the 2(non scare card), So i put him on Kx? No preflop raise so AK out the question maybe? Or hes just passive. I'm calling the river everytime unless i have reads. What do you put him on? [/ QUOTE ] The 2 completes the rainbow, so he can't be semi-bluffing a draw he picked up. Unless villain is very aggressive, he's going to have at least top pair here when he raises. Would he raise with K2-K9? Again, I doubt it. I think two pair or a mis(slow)played set is more likely. [ QUOTE ] Do you fold this river then? [/ QUOTE ] Most of the time, we will be beat on the river. We call the turn because there's a chance villain turned two pair and we have many outs to beat/counterfeit that. Calling the river would strictly be because of the "one bet/big pot" effect. 10BB is sort of borderline for me -- I'd fold this in a 6BB pot and call a 14BB one. I note that the majority of the posts are berating OP for folding as a "huge leak", and I think it's closer than everyone seems to think. |
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