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Old 03-31-2005, 07:50 PM
tiltaholic tiltaholic is offline
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Default Simple preflop question

Villian is like 24/20 and seems to fold in response to small amounts of aggression postflop (though is initially aggressive himself postflop).

1/2 game 10-handed.

I post in the CO. Blinds are tight and tight.

folded to villian in MP2. he raises. shocker. MP3 folds. I call one more in the CO with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

overzealous?

(will post my thoughts much later tonight or tomorrow)
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Old 03-31-2005, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop question

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Villian is like 24/20 and seems to fold in response to small amounts of aggression postflop (though is initially aggressive himself postflop).

1/2 game 10-handed.

I post in the CO. Blinds are tight and tight.

folded to villian in MP2. he raises. shocker. MP3 folds. I call one more in the CO with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

overzealous?

(will post my thoughts much later tonight or tomorrow)

[/ QUOTE ]

Would you consider a 3-bet pre-flop?
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Old 03-31-2005, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop question

Kxs are not very great IMO. The fact that the blinds are tight and might fold to this raise brings the suitedness value almost down to nil. With your line on villian I'd be more apt to raise with hands I'd usually call here(Broadways, Middle Pairs) but not call with hands I'd usually fold.
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Old 03-31-2005, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop question

http://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/i...iller0205.html

His highness discusses playing Q3s in your spot, although he had cold callers. It's marginal, but I think, assuming good postflop play, you can at least make it into a break even play.
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Old 03-31-2005, 09:19 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: Simple preflop question

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Villian is like 24/20 and seems to fold in response to small amounts of aggression postflop (though is initially aggressive himself postflop).

1/2 game 10-handed.

I post in the CO. Blinds are tight and tight.

folded to villian in MP2. he raises. shocker. MP3 folds. I call one more in the CO with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

overzealous?

(will post my thoughts much later tonight or tomorrow)

[/ QUOTE ]

It looks like a position raise, so I like a 3-bet here. You just need to keep your ego out if he keeps playing back at you postflop. None of this crap: "He's *NOT* going to bet me out of this pot".
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Old 03-31-2005, 09:21 PM
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From a pure EV perspective, you can probably turn a profit on this, but I think it's very very slight.

If I'm playing just this table, and the raiser misplays hands postflop, I'll play.

If either the player is decent postflop, or I'm multitabling, I'll drop this reduce the number of clicks and to put attention into other hands.

It's right on the edge for me, but I'm probably one of the tighter preflop players on here. I wouldn't be suprised if people lean towards calling this.
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop question

wow. people advocating a 3-bet. interesting.

so. my thought process preflop:
villian is clearly raising light, and since he is first in in MP, could be raising a huge range of hands here. the blinds are going to fold no matter what (probably). i didn't really even think about a 3-bet at the time but it doesn't seem like such as bad proposition. now just calling, i'm getting better than 2:1. so i call...

blinds fold. FLOP: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

an almost ideal flop, no?

Villian bets. (as expected). Hero ??
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: Simple preflop question

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Would you consider a 3-bet pre-flop?

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I had the same thought.
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Old 04-01-2005, 01:03 AM
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Just because he's rasising loose doesn't mean he's not packing AA. I think you can call, but I don't think a three bet with a marginal holding is right.

On your flop, I think you've got to raise. No sense in employing WA/WB or something, since he's probably got one or two overcards at least. If he makes it three bets, I'm not sure yet if you call down or fold the turn UI.
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Old 04-01-2005, 01:47 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
Villian is like 24/20 and seems to fold in response to small amounts of aggression postflop (though is initially aggressive himself postflop).

1/2 game 10-handed.

I post in the CO. Blinds are tight and tight.

folded to villian in MP2. he raises. shocker. MP3 folds. I call one more in the CO with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

overzealous?

(will post my thoughts much later tonight or tomorrow)

[/ QUOTE ]

Would you consider a 3-bet pre-flop?

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you suggesting that hero get on the dance floor and make some moves?? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Shake that ass now!
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