Potowatomi collusion

[RydenStoompala]

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Here's how it's collusion:

Because it's a kill pot ... one guy straddles, his buddy raises

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I'll take that kind of "collusion" all day. There is a good way to deal with "bump it up" pre-deal players...play back at them.

[BradleyT]

I had the buffet at Potowatomi tonight and had a stomach ache (constant pain - never experienced before in my life) for 4 hours.

I know of a husband/wife team that play $2/$4 together and actually request to move seats next to each other and often play pots together. I don't mind though, the wife is horrible and will call 3 bets cold with A6o and the husband plays and two sooted.

There's usually 3-4 tables of $2/$4 going, I woulda asked for a seat change. In fact I'll often request to move to that husband/wife teams table since they play so badly.

[bernie]

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It is not ridiculous when player A tells player B to do it. That's the problem, teamwork is not allowed.

That's why it's called collusion and not just flat out cheating. (even though collusion is cheating)

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If he says it loud enough for the whole table to hear, and they haven't been dealt cards yet, it's not.

b

Hello all, my very first post.. PotowatoDonkeyMi is the worst poker room i've ever played in. The floor there as well as the dealers don't give two craps about anyone except the regulars. i live in Milwaukee, but rarely will you find me there(you can't drink at the tables, ha). If i do go, you'de find me getting sucked out at the 3/5 NL. On top of poor management they also have some strange rules.

GET THIS: i'm playing 3/5 NL, i've had a few suck outs already so I am down to about 100-150 left in front of me. I look down at AK unsuited and raise to 25 preflop. I get raised and the other guy and I get all in (this guy was loose as hell, normally i dont push with AK preflop like this, but thats beside the point he could easily have A-donkey.) so anyway the other guy has AK unsuited as well. So i suggest we chop the pot since it's just the two of us left in the pot to protect against the flush. Dealer immediately speaks up, "No you can't do that! that's collusion!" I of course asked how it could possibly be collusion, but got no response.

POINT OF THE STORY: atleast they do care about collusion happening, but lack to understand what really constitues as collusion... and if you got a decent bank roll and can handle the variance of the 3/5NL, this is a great place to make money and have a lousy time doing it, ha!

Other people who have more B&M experience than me can chime in, but I dont think any casino would of let you chop that pot. Unless you are the blinds (preflop) you're pretty much forced to play out any hand.

I don't have much B&M experience but I thought I remember chopping a hand with someone in downtown vegas when we were both all in with the same hand preflop (KK vs. KK) to protect against the chance of one guy catching a flush. I believe i've seen other people do that as well... Any one have a comment on that? In Vegas, I think they pretty much let you do whatever each person involved in the pot agrees on within reason anyway. When I was playing 1/2NL at the Golden Nugget durring the Main Event this year, I remember a guy asking me if I just wanted to take out half of my all-in bet and check it down. The dealer didn't say anything, and I declined the offer anyway. i could be a little off on my memory though... it's happened before

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Other people who have more B&M experience than me can chime in, but I dont think any casino would of let you chop that pot. Unless you are the blinds (preflop) you're pretty much forced to play out any hand.

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You could agree to chop after the hand plays out, regardless of the outcome of the cards. The cardroom does not take authority in enforcing those kind of agreements though.

I see. I think this is exactly why some casinos wouldnt want to allow it. (it's easier to just say no)

Especially a less than professional poker room like the Potty that has enough trouble maintaining just simple rules much less anything complicated.

You have to keep in mind that most of the dealers there are very unexperienced. Im willing to bet that only 2-3 of them have any prior pokerroom experience. (I know a handful of their better ones left to go work in Tunica or elsewhere)