Is this really bad? 5/10 6max

[krishanleong]

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I'm not saying I fold this preflop. But it's closer than everyone is giving credit for. Basically you don't have the iniative against a hand that is likely to have you dominated. You'll fold the best hand sometimes when the flop misses both of you. You'll lose a lot when you flop a second best ace. And you'll win a little when you flop top pair. It's not a real good spot.

Krishan

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I take issue with several points in your post.

1- you are by no means "likely dominated." a non-maniac button who is aware of the idea of you raising lighter as you get closer to the button can 3-bet a variety of hands here.

I agree, but you can be in pretty bad shape. I don't think most 5/10 players adjust to steal raises very well and in general I think they tend to 3-bet for real. Against a TAG or LAG it's a totally different story.

2- how would you lose a lot when you flop a second best ace? my default line is to play this hand pretty passively.

I've actually seen a fair amount of bet-call, check-fold from opponents in this spot. If you 3-bet every button raise where your opponent raised and bet all non-ace flops I think you would do pretty well.

3- also you should win a fair amount when you flop top pair, as often you can just play possum after the flop and they will bet your hand for you.

I'm not so sure I guess.

folding here is a mistake.

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I think folding is a mistake. The pot odds are really favorable. I'm just saying the other factors in the hand are really bad.

Krishan

[sthief09]

when you get 3-bet, just play poker and you'll be fine