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Old 10-24-2005, 04:41 PM
Roman Roman is offline
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Default Re: Hand I remembered vs Doug Lee in turning stone 2k event

I didn't?
He paused like in deep thought, counted his chips, etc.
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Old 10-24-2005, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Hand I remembered vs Doug Lee in turning stone 2k event

I would do that same trying to scare you off. I would act all strong. Also did he show you his hand? What was it?
I don't see how his reraise scared you as you mentioned he had come over the top with junk a lot. I know you guys had history but maybe he was in a such a roll that day that he decided to try to outplay you for all the times u outplayed him.
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Old 10-24-2005, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Hand I remembered vs Doug Lee in turning stone 2k event

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a) the OOP reraise scared me

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Doug's a nut. You're ahead of his range here I'd think, and from the tone of your first post you thought that too.

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b) either he has high cards, junk, or high PP. With those types of hands in my range it makes more sense for me to see a flop

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No it doesnt. First, Doug is fully able of talking himself into being potstuck and gambling with junk. If he doest, by just calling you're giving him a free shot to hit his hand. As for the high cards, you will quite frequently be faced with a flop that has 1 overcard to your Js, and you will never really know if that card hit him. So while sometimes you will correctly fold and save a small stack, often you will either fold the best hand or get it in when you are now way behind. Also, you leave him the possibility of getting off hands postflop that you are crushing. Lots of things can happen on the flop the ones that are bad for you far outweigh the ones that are good.

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c) wanted to try to pick up a read on the guy on flop

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Reads are great, but you are costing yourself way too much to give yourself that opportunity. Calling in clear raising spots so you can read the guy later is Hellmuthitis. Its not good for your game.
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Hand I remembered vs Doug Lee in turning stone 2k event

So the consensus is push pf?
I think this hand was caused by the conflict of assigning people on ranges, versus reading there hands. The line I took was a kind of inbetween line being unsure which to trust.

PS he showed AA
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