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Old 05-13-2005, 06:02 PM
MLG MLG is offline
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Default Limper Punishing Gone Complicated

blinds are 100/200. six million limpers to be on the button and I make it 1k with K10o and 13k behind. One EP limper calls with about 10k behind. Flop is all low, limper checks I check. Turn is a K, limper bets 1k, I call. River is another blank, no real draws im worried about. Limper bets 2k, I call.

Thoughts on this line?
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Old 05-13-2005, 06:04 PM
DireWolf DireWolf is offline
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Default Re: Limper Punishing Gone Complicated

Obviously if you didn't have a yankees avatar the limper would have folded.

I like the line allright. I'm thinking hes got a medium pair, so he isn't folding the flop, though i still probably bet the flop. I like the call down as well, cause your gunna puke a little if he calls any raise.

Edit: did he open limp? or after how many limpers did he limp?

Double Edit: are you folding a blank turn if he leads out? If so, why the flop check?
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Old 05-13-2005, 06:29 PM
fnord_too fnord_too is offline
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Default Re: Limper Punishing Gone Complicated

Sometimes I take that line sometimes I bet the flop. I like this line if I have been lagtastic recently, and you certainly want to get to showdown cheeply once you pick up a moderate hand.
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Old 05-13-2005, 06:44 PM
locutus2002 locutus2002 is offline
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Default Re: Limper Punishing Gone Complicated

I raise the turn to 3K. Make him throw up a little.
I think its hard for villain to lead the river after this without the nuts, and this will give you flexibility if you want to come over the top. Your also willing to call this amount on the river if a blank hits. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 05-13-2005, 07:10 PM
ThrillFactor ThrillFactor is offline
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Default Re: Limper Punishing Gone Complicated

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I raise the turn to 3K. Make him throw up a little.
I think its hard for villain to lead the river after this without the nuts, and this will give you flexibility if you want to come over the top. Your also willing to call this amount on the river if a blank hits. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Problem is, if he re-pops you on the turn, you have to lay it down. With MLG's line, if you're ahead, your opponent is drawing to at most 5 outs on the river (2 outs for a PP, 3 for an ace, 5 if he paired on the flop - disregarding str8s and flushes). Call the turn, and call a reasonable bet on the river. If opp checks the river, you can make a decision then to value bet or not.

One of those hands that likes to get to showdown cheaply.


On a side note, assuming this is not a rebuy tourney, I really wish I could learn to build a 13K stack by the 100/200 level. Jeez. Of course, raising from the button with KTo after a ton of limpers is not a play that I could see myself making at this point. Maybe that's why...
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Old 05-13-2005, 07:25 PM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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Default Re: Limper Punishing Gone Complicated

If you are going to raise so little preflop (considering the # of limpers) then I think you have to bet out that flop when heads up. It's not like a checkraise by him and you laying down is the worst thing in the world.
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Limper Punishing Gone Complicated

it was the afternoon 50 rebuy, so the stack isnt all that impressive.
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: Limper Punishing Gone Complicated

OK, I fell somewhat better now. ---> <---
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: Limper Punishing Gone Complicated

For what it's worth, I agree with Soss. I think if you're going to punish the limper you should follow through with it on the flop.
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Limper Punishing Gone Complicated

Agree,
Continuation bet is needed on the flop.
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