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Old 01-23-2005, 08:38 PM
Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) is offline
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Default $22 AK UTG...standard?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

Hero (t930)
UTG+1 (t760)
MP1 (t1800)
MP2 (t660)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t745)
Button (t810)
SB (t775)
BB (t20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t120</font>, UTG+1 calls t120, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds.

Flop: (t275) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t300</font>, Hero calls t150.

Turn: (t875) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t340 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t340.

River: (t1555) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1555
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Old 01-23-2005, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: $22 AK UTG...standard?

I'm curious as to what you put your opponent on with his raise on the flop. I figure with him putting half his stack in on the flop, you know the rest of it will go in later. Also why check the turn? Was it to induce the all-in on the turn?

As to how you played it, you figure you are most likely ahead on the flop unless he hit a set. But the min-raise on the flop seems a weird way to play it to me. I would put him on a weaker King and raise all-in because he will most likely call. I doubt he was on a flush draw as most people seem to raise all-in with it.
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Old 01-24-2005, 01:01 AM
Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) is offline
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Default Re: $22 AK UTG...standard?

Alright, sounds like a reasonable thought process to me. I was expecting a K with a weaker kicker as well but didn't really weigh the advantage of reraising all-in on the flop insteading of waiting till the turn and accidentally giving a free card if he was on the flushdraw.
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Old 01-24-2005, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: $22 AK UTG...standard?

Another hand that he might have that came across my mind would have been AA. I could see playing it the way he did, by cold-calling the raise preflop, that he wanted to trap and have maybe one more caller. Also, the minraise on the flop might have been to see if you had the K or were on the draw. A call by you would most likely signal to him that you have the K. What did he have anyway?
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Old 01-24-2005, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: $22 AK UTG...standard?

you need to pot bet this flop and likely pot commit youself hope he has weak King or something. Your bet on flop looks fishy and I am not surprised if he move on top with a weak king.

With this stack against one opponent, there is no way I am going to fold. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 01-24-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: $22 AK UTG...standard?

I put him on a weak King. If he had AA he would have pushed after the flop to protect against a flush draw. I would have bet the pot or at least 3/4 pot post flop. I play the hand through. He is pot committed at the turn and will push anything.
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Old 01-24-2005, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: $22 AK UTG...standard?

Thanks for the feedback.

As some posters correctly guessed (and as I did not guess during the play of the hand) he flipped over AA.
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Old 01-24-2005, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: $22 AK UTG...standard?

Wow I had it wrong. Sometimes we are destine to lose. I once lost a live tourney with the same hand combination. I believe it is long term -EV to assume that every cold call of a raise is a monster hand.
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Old 01-24-2005, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: $22 AK UTG...standard?

I agree with you Oscar that you cannot always assume that a cold call before the flop means the caller has a monster, especially in a $20 SnG. I do not think I would play AA by min-raising on the flop either, as it gives the initial better odds to chase the flush. But with so much invested, coupled with the low probability of running into AA, all my money would have gone in too. Tough break.
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