Short stack play in the Party NL 2000

[mrwatson23]

How much do you think a player could make buying into the Party NL $2000 for $500, then using the short stack strategy as outlined in Getting Started in Hold'em. I have been experimenting with this, and it is funny how many times I have seen "you obviously suck, otherwise you wouldn't buy in for $500 in a $2000 game" typed in the chat box. But they still get their money in with the worst hand more often than not.

[greg nice]

well they are right, you do suck. frankly, following a chart out of a book hardly consitutes playing poker.

but they suck also if they are getting it in with the worst of it.

so its a battle of who sucks more. sounds like a good game!

[mrwatson23]

I don't really care if I am "playing poker" as you define it or not. What matters is whether playing a small stack makes money. I don't claim to be an expert no-limit player, which is why I am playing the small stack in the first place. There was a big thread about this in the Poker Theory forum, with some very informative posts from Ed Miller. You should read it.

[mrwatson23]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) converter

SB ($2011.5)
BB ($2606)
UTG ($1925)
UTG+1 ($2965.5)
MP1 ($2458)
MP2 ($2334)
CO ($2057)
Hero ($597)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $20, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $90</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $70, UTG+1 calls $70.

Flop: ($280) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $150</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $507 (All-In), BB calls $357.

Turn: ($1294) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($1294) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $1294

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has As 8s (flush, ace high).
Hero has Ah Ad (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: BB wins $1294. </font>

[greg nice]

you do what works for you. obviously im not a fan of it because the strategy is blatantly obvious and it tightens up the game considerably once a few of you sit down.

i do find the quote in the initial post sort of funny now that you admit that its true..

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I don't claim to be an expert no-limit player, which is why I am playing the small stack in the first place.

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[mrwatson23]

what's more important, playing great, or making money?

[Prevaricator]

I hate it when people ruin the games by buying in for the minimum and thne just pushing preflop. The lucky fuckers just double up and leave. This the most annoying when im playing shorthanded.

[TomCollins]

You could make a LOT more if you learned to play, I'll tell you that much.

[fimbulwinter]

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You could make a LOT more if you learned to play, I'll tell you that much.

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the sick thing is that in a sense, you're right, but in a much more pragmatic, immediate way, you are very very wrong.

fim

[TomCollins]

Of course he won't learn overnight. It's possible he won't even learn ever. But even a top NL 400 player could make more buying in full than he could with a $500 stack at NL 2000.