A little help

[Zeno]

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That's America feeling its oats.


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This is bosh. One Marine General does not represent all of America. I might just as well say all Frenchmen are cheese eating surrender monkeys. Your continual all or nothing ‘analysis’ and statements wear thin.

-George Orwell

[Felix_Nietsche]

You claimed the best soldiers hate war. Here is what you wrote:

"The greatest soldiers realized the horrors of war and didn't consider it 'fun.'"
****You mean like General Patton, America's best General of WW2. Obviously you did not read his biography.

Good soldiers come in all shapes, sizes, and attitudes. If you read the book, Band of Brothers. One of the best soldiers under Lt. Winters, enjoyed war.

Being ex-military I've known a lot of veterans. I've heard thousands of "war stories". Some of the best soldiers enjoyed the excitement and comraderie of war.

Claiming the best soldiers hate war is just wishful thinking on your part. Your statement was just plain silly.

[AngryCola]

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Claiming the best soldiers hate war is just wishful thinking on your part. Your statement was just plain silly.

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Yours is worse.

I'll let others elaborate.

[Felix_Nietsche]

You are unable to elaborate....because to do so requires CRITICAL THINKING which I suspect you are incapable of doing.....

Either *BACK UP* your assertions with *SUPPORTING ARGUMENTS* or don't bother posting.....
Intellectual lazy posters who confuse their emotions with reasons are a dime a dozen....

[andyfox]

I didn't say I didn't understand. I said it was shocking.

[andyfox]

Patton never said war was fun or a hoot. I used Eisenhower, Rommel and Sherman as examples, there are many more great generals talking about the horrors of war and their dislike for it. Of course there is excitement (Sherman, for example, alluded to it in his remarks I cited) and comraderie. But he didn't consider it fun.

I've heard lot of war stories too, most especially from my dad and his comrades, and lots of "war" stories from my son and his comrades, who are cops. I'm thankful neither of them considered or considers killing fun or a hoot.

BTW, I don't doubt the subject of this thread meant what he said.

[zaxx19]

Seems to me like the best soldeirs are the ones who wage war best...

I dont think that necessarily means they either-"relish killing" or undertake killing with seriousmoral reservations- I think that means they kill especially well.

[ACPlayer]

It means that they efficiently defeat an enemy and kill when it is necessary.

[vulturesrow]

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You claimed the best soldiers hate war. Here is what you wrote:

"The greatest soldiers realized the horrors of war and didn't consider it 'fun.'"
****You mean like General Patton, America's best General of WW2. Obviously you did not read his biography.

Good soldiers come in all shapes, sizes, and attitudes. If you read the book, Band of Brothers. One of the best soldiers under Lt. Winters, enjoyed war.

Being ex-military I've known a lot of veterans. I've heard thousands of "war stories". Some of the best soldiers enjoyed the excitement and comraderie of war.

Claiming the best soldiers hate war is just wishful thinking on your part. Your statement was just plain silly.

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I think part of the problem is perhaps we are using terms too loosely. There is no doubt that many soldiers enjoy the camaraderie of war. There is no doubt that many enjoy meeting someone in armed combat and coming out the victor. What I seriously doubt is that many people expressly enjoy the killing part of war. Many dont focus on it, which they probably shouldnt. However, war in general is not a good thing, and most people that give serious thought to it realize this.

[bholdr]

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Relax, man. They're just towelheads.


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Amen.


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i reeeeeeally hope you're joking.