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#1
08-30-2005, 07:19 PM
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Party 15-30 I\'m not sure I like my play here.
Well I like preflop, I like the flop and turn, just not sure I like my line on the river but at the time I thought Id induce a bluff on a scare card and checkraise. Though If I really thought if he had a flush i should just lead out. Who likes the play and who doesnt , feel free to critique the rest if you feel the need.
Party poker 15-30 (9 handed) Bunky is Sb with Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Weak Loose preety retarded all in all MP open limps, button overlimps, I call the extra fiver and the BB checks the option. Flop: (4 small bets) Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I lead, BB folds, MP raises, button folds, I three bet, MP calls on cue. Turn 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] No reason to check so I bet, MP calls. River 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Now I check, thoughts? 
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#2
08-30-2005, 07:21 PM
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Re: Party 15-30 I\'m not sure I like my play here.
I really prefer a bet-3bet here. Most of the time you'll still get raised with a flush, and this way he won't check behind with a hand he would've called a bet with.
Rob
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#3
08-30-2005, 07:22 PM
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Re: Party 15-30 I\'m not sure I like my play here.
Lead-three-betting seems better here.
If your opponent is in fact on a flush, he'll likely raise the river. If he's on a weaker Q or something like that, he might let the river check through anyway. Leading guarentees we get one bet in and opens up the possiblity we get three. Checking seems to sometimes mean we get nothing in and usually prevent us from getting in more than 2.
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#4
08-30-2005, 07:25 PM
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Re: Party 15-30 I\'m not sure I like my play here.
Ez bet 3 bet. It's by far the best play. Not even close. He'll probably check most queens and you want at least a bet. This way you have the best of both worlds. You get at least a bet and maybe 3. c/r gets almost always 0 or 2 bets. Could get 1, could get 4, but bet 3 bet is the play by far. The reason i'm saying you're going to get at least a bet is about the only had he could have the way he played it that isn't going to give you a bet is like JT.
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#6
08-30-2005, 07:34 PM
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Re: Party 15-30 I\'m not sure I like my play here.
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Ez bet 3 bet. It's by far the best play. Not even close. [/ QUOTE ] You of course sir are correct, score yourself 5 bonus points. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] Even if hes really retarded? You think he wont value bet a Q there after I check when the flush card hits?
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#7
08-30-2005, 07:37 PM
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Re: Party 15-30 I\'m not sure I like my play here.
[ QUOTE ]
Lead-three-betting seems better here. If your opponent is in fact on a flush, he'll likely raise the river. If he's on a weaker Q or something like that, he might let the river check through anyway. Leading guarentees we get one bet in and opens up the possiblity we get three. Checking seems to sometimes mean we get nothing in and usually prevent us from getting in more than 2. [/ QUOTE ] Straight outs the textbook. Im so glad you did your homework. I know, i usually bet and pray I get raised on the river, but I really felt he wuld bet a lot of hands as a value bet or as a bluff than the chance he actually had a flush draw. Especially after I showed weakness on the river. Sure looked like I was scared of the flush. Cant even use this play as a change up?
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#8
08-30-2005, 07:38 PM
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Re: Party 15-30 I\'m not sure I like my play here.
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I really prefer a bet-3bet here. Most of the time you'll still get raised with a flush, and this way he won't check behind with a hand he would've called a bet with. [/ QUOTE ] Sup Rob. You are correct of course, but dont you notice that people tend to calue bet weka hands in position more on the river in 15-30 and up? Can this play even be used as a change up to get some free showdowns for metagame reasons?
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#9
08-30-2005, 07:47 PM
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Re: Party 15-30 I\'m not sure I like my play here.
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[ QUOTE ] Ez bet 3 bet. It's by far the best play. Not even close. [/ QUOTE ] You of course sir are correct, score yourself 5 bonus points. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] Even if hes really retarded? You think he wont value bet a Q there after I check when the flush card hits? [/ QUOTE ] Not often enough to make up for the times its checked through or he just calls your check raise when you could have 3 bet. The river check/raise would be better if the flush draw didn't get there.
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#10
08-31-2005, 01:11 AM
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Re: Party 15-30 I\'m not sure I like my play here. RESULTS
Well beings that I agree that I should have just led the river, I checked, he bet, i checkraised and he called my checkraise with AJo. thats right, no pair.
I did learn my lesson tonight though. I overlimp one limper in hijack with 89s, Co limps, button limps, blinds come along and we go flopping 6 handed. Flop comes K89 (2 clubs I have none) blinds check , MP checks, I I bet , i get 3 callers. Turn is a beautiful 9. I bet, i get 2 callers River Q. I bet Co raises, button folds, i three bet button caps, I call he flips JTo. At least I learn from my mistakes. thanks gang.
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