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Old 11-22-2005, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: Betting flush draws into a field OOP

I've been thinking about this same thing lately. The value bet is based on having the callers which is why jamming in position with previous callers makes sense as you know how many are in the pot for the round already.

If you bet and get one caller and lose the others then it isn't a value bet. If you get no callers or 3 then it is good.

If you check and it gets checked through, you get a free turn but probably won't get much action if your card hits unless you are behind.

If you check and there is an early position bet, and callers and you can raise then it is a good thing.

If you check and there is a late position bet, you will want to call to keep people in.

I'm not far enough along to express these conditions mathematically to determine EV, but it seems like there are more good things than bad that can come out of checking the draw OOP.

Now I'm off to read Q-tips post where this has all probably already been decided.
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