Going broke either way?

hgoodman · #1 11-21-2005, 02:58 PM

2/4 NL on pokerroom... hero with ~780, villain covers

Dealt J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in MP... folded around, I call, LP calls, villain calls in LP, BB checks.

Flop J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot=16)

Checked to me, I bet 20, LP calls, villain raises to 80, I call (?), LP folds.

Turn K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot=206)

I check to villain, he bets 100, I call (?)

River Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot=406)

I lead for 250 (?), Villain raises all-in, I call.

How was my line?

HoldEmKillah · #2 11-21-2005, 03:00 PM

In an unraised pot I go broke on that river.

hgoodman · #3 11-21-2005, 03:03 PM

Exactly my thought, I put him on a J with a weak kicker, maybe J9 suited or something.

turnipmonster · #4 11-21-2005, 03:05 PM

on the river you have 580 left in a 400 pot, you are going broke.

AceHiStation · #5 11-21-2005, 03:14 PM

I gladly go broke, he could easily have JT/AJ. You easily could be beat, but I still stick it in all day.

Phaedrus · #6 11-21-2005, 03:15 PM

Pre-flop: fold

Flop: Re-raise to avoid giving a free card to hands like Ax[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or 87[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. (If he has JT or a better J I'm probably going broke anyway)

Turn: Bet the pot.

River: OK

ahnuld · #7 11-21-2005, 04:08 PM

If I have JT I call your river lead. If I have JA I call your river read. If I have a higher fh (extremely unlikely) obviously I push you, as I do with JKJQ. I cant see you winning at showdown against a soldi player, but you cant fold. Is check callin the river ridiculously weak?

#8 11-21-2005, 04:10 PM

Yes. Check raising or pushing the river is fine though. So is bet calling.

tdarko · #9 11-21-2005, 04:47 PM

why can't he have J10 or AJ? J-x is obvious too but you beat more than just that. in an unraised pot of course i call this river push, w/o hesitation.

EDIT: AceHi already mentioned J10/AJ--i didn't read all the way through.

fsuplayer · #10 11-21-2005, 05:03 PM

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In an unraised pot I go broke on that river.

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unless im real deep, im going broke most of the times in raised pots here too.