Hand...

[Entity]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

I was originally all for this thinking that many Ax hands will think they have you beat. On top of that, many Ax hands might open from the SB. I want to 3-bet so badly, but I could see myself losing to JJ and AA if villain caps and I'm surely not folding.

This seemed so straight forward, but now I think I feel as confused as OP as what should be the best line.

[/ QUOTE ]

There are a lot more combos of Ax hands than JJ or AA.

I 3-bet the monkey. Call a cap.

[/ QUOTE ]

Does hand reading support Ax?

Krishan

[/ QUOTE ]

Hand reading really doesn't support much right now. You provided no reads, and it's very possible that a player could play AK etc. this way trying to extract the maximum from a hand like K5 (which would often confusedly call the river), etc. His handrange is wide enough here that you're ahead 66% at the least, I'd be guessing.

I also fold this preflop.

Rob

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, I guess I don't think a pair of aces will check this turn that often. And I don't think a pair of aces (other than AK,AJ) will checkraise the river. And that's assuming those hands check the turn.

It's just a strange hand that if I thought through all the way I could justify just calling the river cr. Maybe not.

Krishan

[/ QUOTE ]

If AK wouldn't check this river, would JJ?

[krishanleong]

[ QUOTE ]


If AK wouldn't check this river, would JJ?

[/ QUOTE ]

They both would check the river. But I'm discounting AK based on the turn. I do think AK is a possible holding for Villian.

Krishan

I like your point on the turn, AK does not seem likely to check there. It is HU, so maybe villain is playing a little strange and was hoping you had a worse A? If I were villain and had AK and somehow checked the turn, I just don't think I would check the river. I don't know what hands would be a good fit for a river c/r, it's not like you've shown a lot of aggression here.

Then again, as somethingclever states, it could be someone thinking they are being tricky and I'm over thinking it and missing out on value.

[Entity]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


If AK wouldn't check this river, would JJ?

[/ QUOTE ]

They both would check the river. But I'm discounting AK based on the turn. I do think AK is a possible holding for Villian.

Krishan

[/ QUOTE ]

Your hand doesn't look like Ax -- so why would he check the turn with JJ but bet with AK? One would think he'd be more inclined to bet JJ if he's going to bet one of the hands, as it's more vulnerable than AK here.

Not that I'm giving this guy much credit for thinking on a decent level here, but his hand is pretty hard to read. I've seen Ax played this way often enough that I'm ok with putting more bets in on the river.

Rob

[krishanleong]

[ QUOTE ]

Your hand doesn't look like Ax -- so why would he check the turn with JJ but bet with AK? One would think he'd be more inclined to bet JJ if he's going to bet one of the hands, as it's more vulnerable than AK here.

Not that I'm giving this guy much credit for thinking on a decent level here, but his hand is pretty hard to read. I've seen Ax played this way often enough that I'm ok with putting more bets in on the river.

Rob

[/ QUOTE ]

Sounds good. As you inferred he had JJ. His play is actually internally consistent. But I think I'll see AK or a weak ace or AJ often enough to 3-bet here (which I did)

Krishan

[SomethingClever]

Well, now you know that he plays uber-predictably, instead of uber-tricky.