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Old 12-05-2005, 06:48 PM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Default TPNK in limped pot

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 ($316.37)
Hero ($236.95)
Button ($120.65)
SB ($105.15)
BB ($164.85)
UTG ($391.80)
UTG+1 ($251.77)
MP1 ($190)
MP2 ($403)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls $2, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($10) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ...</font>

Villain is 60/5/2 over nearly 100 hands. Went to showdown is below 20 though, so he's just loose preflop, not post.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: TPNK in limped pot

I usually raise to $30 and bet $50 on the turn and then take a free showdown. If he bets or raises me again at any point I fold. Calling the flop is tricky because some players will put you on a draw/think you're weak and bet again with just a ten on the turn, but others won't. If I have a good read on MP3's turn betting habits I might just call and see what he does.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: TPNK in limped pot

uhhh, fold...you should be happy to see flops with this hand for $2...you should not be happy to play $80 pots with this hand with a pair of aces...
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Old 12-05-2005, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: TPNK in limped pot

mmm, folding. I forgot about that option.
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Old 12-05-2005, 08:18 PM
tdomeski tdomeski is offline
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Default Re: TPNK in limped pot

i really see no reason in playing a pot here with a pair of aces...explain your reasoning?
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:35 PM
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With only one player to act behind him, MP3 could be betting worse hands here as a bluff, semi-bluff, protection, or some combination of bluffing/protection (betting a ten or a pocket pair which he presumes is good). I think that against many opponents your hand will be good here often enough to be worth continuing with. Furthermore, you have position over him in a small pot. Playing your hand aggressively puts a ton of pressure on him. It will be tough to call a big bet on the turn even with some hands that beat you (AJ, etc). Since he is seeing 60% of flops he will more often just hold an ace or ten here than a set. AA and AK are hands he'd almost certainly raise preflop, perhaps TT and AQ as well.

Even if your read on him (tight postflop) turns out to be wrong, you still will end up splitting 1/3 of the time if he calls down with Ad8d or whatever.
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:44 PM
tdomeski tdomeski is offline
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Default Re: TPNK in limped pot

I think folding &gt; raising &gt; calling.

I mean if you are ahead he is probably very live, if you are behind you are probably barely live if live at all.

If you are raising the flop then betting the turn hard hoping he folds a hand that would split with you or beat you then what does it even matter that you have an Ace? Might as well be no pair no draw that you are bluffing with.

Not to mention you may get c/r by blinds.
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:40 PM
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not closing the action; throw it away quickly
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:54 PM
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Usually fold. Sometimes, take soah's line.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: TPNK in limped pot

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Usually fold. Sometimes, take soah's line.

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Same here. Also I'm raising preflop probably 30-40% of the time even after a limper.
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