Two hands (Stars 45k)

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i only counted the 7's and 8's as half outs.. so i already accounnted for when the 7's or 8's won't be good to his pair of 9s or >.

[PrayingMantis]

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7's and 8's - i think they're good 50% or more. so 3 outs.


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I would think that your pair outs are good significantly less than 50%, against an arbitrary unknown player with such action and board.

[Skjonne]

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No reads because i'm a doofus that doesn't pay much attention

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How I love this sentence. All the time we get this "Just got moved to the table" or "Villain was moved to the table three hands ago" or "blah blah blah" when the fact is, that at lot of us four table MTT's, surf pr0n and post on 2+2 and consequently doesn't have a clue as to whether Villain is the Uber Rock of the Universe or Gus Hansens big brother. Kudos

Hand 1: Minraise = 60% strong hand, 20% medium hand, "what do you got?" and 20% semi-bluff (i.e. a bluff with only half the bet it should be, hence "semi"). You're behind to that range. Fold

Hand 2: That's a call. You get appr. 2:1 and that's enough me feels

[TheJackal]

Hand 1: I probably would have checked the flop or bet less, a c/r would make me puke here. Looks like a fold to me after the raise.

Hand 2: Looks like you are getting 2:1, and I believe you win this hand somewhere in the neighboorhood of 30%-40% of the time, I think you can call here profitably. Good spot to get a big stack, and I don't know about you but I play much better from the lead.

[tedtodd]

Hand 1: I like the bet on the flop- but his reraise would probably make me fold. I put him on pocket pair- and he knows you were either on a blind-steal or your overcards missed the flop. You're 7 or 8 might hold up against his lower pocket pair- but i'd lay it down. Hopefully you can trap him into thinking you're stealing blinds again later, and come back over the top of him.

Hand 2: I like this hand more. I'd easily call the button with ~30k but i'm folding to the MP1 with ~50k. I like it headsup, but not 3 ways. MP1 checked the flop, maybe trying to get a free card on a junk flop- but when he re-raised, i think he has definetly on a flush draw. I'd look for some better spots.

[Rickyroodido]

I would fold hand 2. At best you have 8 outs, I think.

Without reads, I'm letting the 2nd hand go. Button's all-in could very well be a push with higher diamonds, which cuts out 9 of your outs. I'm not sure what MP1 is doing here, except that maybe he has a set and knows that one of these players are aggro and will bet ou on this board. I think his raise is pretty much saying "anyone else on a draw, get the [censored] out now." Fold.

The first hand is a trickier. If BB knows you are aggro and is capable of playing back, well, that could mean he is testing the waters with his small pair. If he doesn't know or you just have no read, I make the assumption that a 9 or five lies comfortably as one of his hole cards. Assuming no reads by either party, this is a fold or go over the top situation. The question is - when? Well, you could just call here and then bet out the pot on the turn and then bet 1/2 the pot again, making your play look kind of trappy. The problem is that face cards could be disasterous with no read. So, I'd say push, put him to the test.

Argun

[johnnybeef]

hand 1 you are too short to call the checkraise. also, i check behind here on the flop, as there are a ton of semi bluff cards that could come off on the turn (and 4 cards that give you the nutz).

hand 2 i fold. you are up against Axd too often here given the betting.

[zoobird]

Without reads I fold hand 1. If I had a read that led me to believe he'd put me on a steal and c-bet, then I push. My rule of thumb is I've got to expect the re-raise BEFORE he does it to push.

Given the pot odds and the number of potential outs, I call hand 2. While you could be up against a better flush draw, you could also be up against 2 pairs, sets, straight draws.

[PFrese]

FOld hand 1

call hand 2 - you have ~15 outs and based on the action, you are not up againts the nut flush draw. Maybe AKd is out there but I think you are up against set over set. You are still ok if you loose and you are a monster if you win.