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Old 08-03-2004, 03:06 PM
Alobar Alobar is offline
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Default 77 from the SB

BB in this hand is a huge LAG

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 7 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 7 BB, between Hero and BB.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by BB (7 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows 7c 7d (one pair, sevens).
BB shows 6d Qh (one pair, queens).
Outcom

e: BB wins 7 BB. </font>

Is this raise from the SB standard? considering the BB LAGish nature, is the call down correct? or with 2 overcards and the flush draw hitting on the turn, do I go ahead and fold?
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:17 PM
Wayne Wayne is offline
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Default Re: 77 from the SB

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Flop: (6 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.


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What hand do you think the BB has? What can you beat?
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:18 PM
rtucker5 rtucker5 is offline
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Default Re: 77 from the SB

This may sound weak, but I fold to the flop raise. Sure, he could be raising a flush draw or bottom pair, but it's going to cost you 2.5 more bets to find out. Not worth it in my opinion. FWIW I would raise here preflop as well.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:28 PM
Vehn Vehn is offline
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Default Re: 77 from the SB

You should usually fold to the flop raise minus image concerns. As is you absolutely cannot call on the turn against any one except a major clown.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:35 PM
Peter_rus Peter_rus is offline
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Default Re: 77 from the SB

JT, any 2 hearts, any K, any Q, 22. He can beat first two and other hands if turned or rivered 7 (around 10% of time). If BB doesn't like semibluffs then it's certainly fold if not so and BB is aggro - there is no way i can fold this flop.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:50 PM
jujujaja34 jujujaja34 is offline
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Default Re: 77 from the SB

Alobar,

First, the raise was fine. Secondly, fold on the flop. The BB likely already has you beat, but more importantly (considering all the draws out), he will be very likely to be ahead after the turn and river if he isn't already. The pot is not nearly large enough to continue after his flop raise.

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Old 08-03-2004, 04:19 PM
chio chio is offline
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Default Re: 77 from the SB

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Alobar,

First, the raise was fine. Secondly, fold on the flop. The BB likely already has you beat, but more importantly (considering all the draws out), he will be very likely to be ahead after the turn and river if he isn't already. The pot is not nearly large enough to continue after his flop raise.

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this sounds perfect to me
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Old 08-03-2004, 05:44 PM
Franchise (TTT) Franchise (TTT) is offline
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You have to know your opponent, and his image of you. Without being there and knowing what exactly constitutes a "huge LAG", nobody here can really tell you what the best play was.

That said, it looks like this guy will let you see a showdown cheap (checks behind on the river), so calling down wasn't so bad. Don't feel too bad about this one, and don't forget to use the information you paid for.
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