A Poll on Death

[ZenMusician]

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[PokerAce]

When you take your life, you destroy not only your own life, but the lives of those who love you and you negatively affect the lives of anyone who knows you.

Let's take an average american teenager. This kid dresses funny, acts funny and gets picked on a lot. He has no friends. He starts feeling sorry for himself (boo-hoo) and decides to take a shotgun to his head. This kid, who had no real problems, has just threw away a possible happy future. He has also destroyed the lives of his parents, siblings, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins. His classmates are all affected, even those who weren't close to him. His actions have accomplished nothing but cause pain for others.

The same situation for the middle-aged man who lost his job, wife and is buried in debt. If this man takes his life, he is destroying the lives of those who loved him. His ex-wife's life is likely destroyed by guilt because she will feel responsible, which she isn't. The boss who fired him may feel responsible, but he isn't. If this man had children, or living parents, siblings or cousins, their lives are turned upside down.

It's a completely different story for the elderly or those with terminal illnesses. They are not wasting their lives, as their lives have been lived and are nearly over. People know they are dying and easing the pain may be a valid choice.

It does not take a "Sunday Christian" (which by the way, I am not) to see that the action of suicide destroys lives. Most people who kill themselves do so because of petty reasons (picked on, no friends, lost wife/job/home, etc). None of these things are worth losing your life and future over and destroying the lives of those who love you.

When a person kills themself, they are not thinking of other people, they are selfishly thinking only of their own pain. They don't bother to reach out for help or to even think about what will happen to those around them once they do it.

Go talk to a mother of a child who has commited suicide for a while and see if you don't think that action was selfish.

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When you take your life, you destroy not only your own life, but the lives of those who love you and you negatively affect the lives of anyone who knows you.

Let's take an average american teenager. This kid dresses funny, acts funny and gets picked on a lot. He has no friends. He starts feeling sorry for himself (boo-hoo) and decides to take a shotgun to his head. This kid, who had no real problems, has just threw away a possible happy future. He has also destroyed the lives of his parents, siblings, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins. His classmates are all affected, even those who weren't close to him. His actions have accomplished nothing but cause pain for others.

The same situation for the middle-aged man who lost his job, wife and is buried in debt. If this man takes his life, he is destroying the lives of those who loved him. His ex-wife's life is likely destroyed by guilt because she will feel responsible, which she isn't. The boss who fired him may feel responsible, but he isn't. If this man had children, or living parents, siblings or cousins, their lives are turned upside down.

It's a completely different story for the elderly or those with terminal illnesses. They are not wasting their lives, as their lives have been lived and are nearly over. People know they are dying and easing the pain may be a valid choice.

It does not take a "Sunday Christian" (which by the way, I am not) to see that the action of suicide destroys lives. Most people who kill themselves do so because of petty reasons (picked on, no friends, lost wife/job/home, etc). None of these things are worth losing your life and future over and destroying the lives of those who love you.

When a person kills themself, they are not thinking of other people, they are selfishly thinking only of their own pain. They don't bother to reach out for help or to even think about what will happen to those around them once they do it.

Go talk to a mother of a child who has commited suicide for a while and see if you don't think that action was selfish.

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So your argument is suicide is selfish because it with destroy those around you. So conversely, you are saying people should live for the welfare of those around them. I'm not so sure about that. Do you live your life for the contentment of your friends and family?
I also think it is a gross generalization when you say most people kill themselves for petty reasons. People kill themselves because they don't see any other way out. Have you ever had a bad nightmare? You know that feeling of hopelessness, of despair? What if you couldn't wake up from that nightmare, and that nightmare was your reality?
Like I stated earlier, I believe if one has a right to life, they also have a right to death.

[Brudder Andrusha]

Have you ever had a bad nightmare? You know that feeling of hopelessness, of despair? What if you couldn't wake up from that nightmare, and that nightmare was your reality?

I find it petty that you didn't try to seek help before you pulled the trigger.

hmmm

Interesting that learnt from somewhere how to pull the trigger.

ThankYou&DriveThru

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I also think it is a gross generalization when you say most people kill themselves for petty reasons. People kill themselves because they don't see any other way out.

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Unless you have a terminal disease or injury you can 99% of the time recover (to some extent) from just about anything. Suicide is not a solution but rather a cop out. It solves nothing but leaves a mess (literally, financially, emotionally etc) for others to clean up after your gone. This is why it's considered selfish. If you have no one that cares for you or will have to deal with your mess that you left behind then it's not selfish, just stupid. Your right to make the decision just a dumb decision to make.