a thought on tipping dealers

[Ray Zee]

tipping is a sore subject so i thought i would revive it.

since some card rooms have shuffling machines about five more hands an hour are dealt. and dealers have less hand work to do that affects the health of their wrists and hands.
doesnt the more hands per hour equate to a raise for the dealers and less work to boot. should tips be lessend.
most would say no i think. but what if technology brought the speed of the game to 90 hands an hour. should dealers reap that new reward as well. if not are we tipping the amount for the hand or are we paying to increase the dealers hourly rate. if so what to.

[highlife]

if dealer are giving out more hands/hr because of a tech gizmo, my tips will certainly decrease a little bit.

why should a crappy dealer get more tips just because he/she can work a machine?

[GreywolfNYC]

I don't know, Ray, but I don't mind throwing the dealer a buck or two when I win a pot. They're working people, and I appreciate it when they do their job well. And as far as the auto shufflers go, we benefit from that device too, especially when we're paying time charges.

[PokerBabe(aka)]

The tip to hand ratio remains the same for me with or without the shuffling machine. I give a buck a pot unless the pot is very small (blinds only or one bet on the flop heads up). I am actually keeping track of my tips this year and so far (including floorpeople), my tips are over 2.00 an hour.
I think the machines are a Godsend, especially for the older dealers at Mirage who are really, really slow with the hand shuffling.

LGPG

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[skp]

$2 an hour including floor people?

Babe, you must not be winning your fair share of pots. 35 hands an hour. 10 players in the game. you should be winning more than 3 hands per hour mathematically. If you adjust for the fact that better players probably win less pots (but more money), you should still be close to 3 pots per hour and therefore 3 dollars per hour in tips to dealers alone.

[PokerBabe(aka)]

"close to 3 pots per hour and therefore 3 dollars per hour in tips to dealers alone. "

Hi skp. Remember, I don't tip on "small pots" where there is a flop and only one bet. I pick up more than my share of those tip-free ones. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] My actual number is 2.20 per hour this year so far.

LGPG

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[Mark Heide]

Pokerbabe,

If everyone tipped like you, and the house was dealing 90 hands an hour, I'd give up playing poker and become a dealer.

Good Luck

Mark

[hmmmmm]

a crappy dealer shouldn't get ANY tips -

However, there is a lot more to dealing than putting out the cards. Tips should be about running the game, calling the hands correctly, paying attention etc.

[mostsmooth]

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why should a crappy dealer get more tips just because he/she can work a machine?

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why are you tipping crappy dealers in the first place?

[Randy_Refeld]

Ray,
This advance has offset inflation a little. In most jobs you get raises over time to keep pace with inflation so wouldn't it follow that dealers should also get an increase in pay over time?