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Old 11-30-2005, 06:59 PM
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Rich Lederer has said it much better than I can, and much more than I care to. I'll link you to a couple of articles.

Bert Blyleven: Up Close and Personal

Bert Blyleven for the Hall of Fame

The basic argument is that Bert was generally screwed by his teammates, had a few great years, and was a hell of a pitcher for a long time. He wasn't Don Sutton-light, he was better than Don. He was better than Ryan. He was better than Palmer.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: Baseball HOF Ballot...Anybody Getting In This Year???

I'm gonna say a few prayers for Mattingly. He's my favorite player of all time.

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Old 11-30-2005, 07:20 PM
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Rich Lederer has said it much better than I can, and much more than I care to. I'll link you to a couple of articles.

Bert Blyleven: Up Close and Personal

Bert Blyleven for the Hall of Fame

The basic argument is that Bert was generally screwed by his teammates, had a few great years, and was a hell of a pitcher for a long time. He wasn't Don Sutton-light, he was better than Don. He was better than Ryan. He was better than Palmer.

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I really hope this yr is the yr
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:24 PM
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Speaking of Tommy John, when is Dr. Frank Jobe going to get in the Hall? I can't think of one single off the field "incident" that has impacted baseball more than the ligament transplant surgery that Jobe first performed on John. He belongs in the Hall of Fame as a contributor.

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So now that at least 2 people agree with me about this, anyone want to start a movement to get this done? I imaging that with a little press, the Jobe candidacy would get rolling real quick.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:26 PM
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I'm gonna say a few prayers for Mattingly. He's my favorite player of all time.

Joe

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Check out the Little Hit Man!!!!!

Here's likely to join Anthony Mason Jr. in the St Johns basketball program. Man, I love NY.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:31 PM
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brett,

the comparison isn't as absurd as you make it out to be. Dwight's '85 was better than anything Koufax did.

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nah, that is absurd. koufax was insane. in a world series game 7 when the dodgers could have pitched a hall of famer in drsydale w/ 3 days rest, they pitched a koufax on two days. it ain't all in the numbers. plus, koufax pitched in more pain than gooden ever knew, outside of withdrawal.

edit: yea, 85 is ridiculous though. but hall of fame ballot considers careers not seasons.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:39 PM
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edit: yea, 85 is ridiculous though. but hall of fame ballot considers careers not seasons.

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That's supposed to be in support of sandy? sandy's hall of fame case is built oin less than half of his career.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:43 PM
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yea, his last 5 years were obviously the sickest. but first, he didn't get many opportunities early. and second, the three cy youngs, two series mvps, and one NL mvp speak for themselves. one sick year but 5 of that caliber, yea.

also note that the first half wasn't bad enough to have is era be over 3 or anything like that.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:53 PM
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Also note that the league ERA for his career was 3.63
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:36 PM
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Morris wasn't so great. His WS performance was badass, but that alone doesn't make him a HOFer.

My thought is, if you can remove one game from a player's resume and make him look less than HOF-worthy, then he shouldn't get in.

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Which of his 254 career wins do you want to take away?

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I'd like to forget that he was ever on the Indians, so you can have those ten.

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LOL! Good answer.
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