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Old 12-29-2005, 07:51 AM
AbelM AbelM is offline
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Default Re: Curtains made me do it! #2

No one considering a standard raise to 1100 or so? Of course if wadnbuttAA has any idea at all he'll reraise, but very few players actually do though.
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:20 AM
curtains curtains is offline
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Default Re: Curtains made me do it! #2

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No one considering a standard raise to 1100 or so? Of course if wadnbuttAA has any idea at all he'll reraise, but very few players actually do though.

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I have to admit I have always had serious problems with this line of thinking. You feel free to randomly raise anyone who doesnt move allin when there are 3 left, but they will call you with plenty. I've learned to be more aggressive when my opponents havent acted at all, as opposed to assuming they will fold a decent/medium strength hand with 3 left, just because someone else is short.

Comments like "if he has any clue he will move allin with any 2 cards" are kind of silly to me. I would never blame someone for folding quite a decent % of hands from the BB to a standard raise. I guess I don't like the misguided implication that somehow all "good" players know that they should automatically be a bully in such situations. How many times do you need to be called by KTo before you get this idea?
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:11 PM
J-Lo J-Lo is offline
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Default Re: Curtains made me do it! #2

What is your pushign range on this hand? 22-77?

How are u playing KT-KQ?
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Curtains made me do it! #2

KQ-KJ I do open push, along with any pair.
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:44 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: Curtains made me do it! #2

Thanks for the rationale curtains.

Conclusion: he made it t1000 I believe and the results are unimportant.

I found this interesting b/c, well, I've never even considered a 'standard' play here to raise normally given stack sizes and being ITM....he's right that BB was fairly unimaginative but BB was also able to call allins with quite a few hands ITM (nothing ridiculous but not uber tight).

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Old 12-29-2005, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Curtains made me do it! #2

Seems to me like the biggest metagame benefit of playing hands like this would be to make the same bet on AA-QQ. Is that the case or am I still just lost down here on level 2.x?
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Old 12-29-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: Curtains made me do it! #2

yeah doesnt really matter much in this case, the guy wasnt paying attention nor did he understand ideas like this.
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