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Old 09-11-2005, 04:23 PM
magicmntn magicmntn is offline
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Default Top 2 pair question

Fairly early on at the table. No real reads on anyone.

Party .25/.50

Hero is MP1 with AQ of diamonds with $53 behind
Villain 1 is BB $60
Villain 2 is CO with $29

I call preflop, folded to CO who makes it $1.50
BB calls, I call.

Flop is A Q 3 with the 3 being a dime.
BB checks
I bet $2
CO raises to $6.
BB calls
I raise to $25
CO folds
BB calls.
Turn is a 6 of dimes.
BB checks

My question here is with 2 smooth calls from the BB on the flop, how often am I losing to 333 here. Should I just take the free card on the turn and hope I hit my flush? Or do I push with my 2 pair? The results of the hand are unimportant, but I will post them later if anyone cares.

I just want to know how everyone else would play it.

And yes I know my $2 flop bet was weak. It was intended to be weak to induce the raise from the CO.
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair question

if you take the free card, do you actually plan on folding the unhelped top-2 getting 1-3 to call the rvier with the rest when you hold top-2 in party 50? i think thats a bad move.
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair question

Put it in on the turn, your not getting much money out of a set (if thats what he has) should the board bring another [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair question

PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSH

You're probably ahead, if you're not you have outs. I would be more worried about villain folding than I would be about being behind.
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair question

I guess maybe a better question is with the BB smooth calling CO's raise, should I even be putting in such a large reraise to begin with?

I don't have a problem with the way I played the hand, I just wondered what the optimal play is in this situation
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair question

Bet-call flop, lead/raise turn.
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair question

i dont think a set would get too scared off by the backdoored diamonds, given all the flop action. all a set fears there would be AKd, AQd and thats slim
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Old 09-11-2005, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair question

the only thing I see cold calling that flop raise is A3 or 33. I'm thinking you are behind a lot of the time. I can't think of anything else he has unless he's spectacularly awful. Given you don't have that read, I probably check behind on the turn and hope to spike an A, Q, or diamond. If you check the turn you have to call his river bet as long as it isn't ridiculous. I don't think he'll give you credit for the backdoor flush so if you catch it i'm thinking he'll call a push with a set.
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