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Old 10-18-2005, 12:38 PM
Magikist Magikist is offline
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Default Absolute raking from pots that never see a flop

Absolute Poker is now raking out of pots that simply get folded around. Is this the industry norm? I can't recall ever seeing this before.

In addition, though the max rake does not seem to have gone up, they are maxing in smaller pots (less than 1 BB, so almost EVERY pot is maxxed).

The upshot of this is that short games, and especially heads up, have now become prohibitively expensive. This new change smacks of sheer, unaldulterated greed.

The only bright side is that bonus whores may clear bonuses faster (but lose more to the rake in the process).
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Old 10-18-2005, 01:49 PM
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hmm, I wonder if you have rakeback what the consequences are. where did you hear this information?
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Absolute raking from pots that never see a flop

This would definitely suck if true. Surely there are some people playing there this afternoon that can verify.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Absolute raking from pots that never see a flop

Do you have an example?

As far as I know this is not true.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: Absolute raking from pots that never see a flop

So many hands get folded around there, they probably had to get rake from somewhere...
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: Absolute raking from pots that never see a flop

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The only bright side is that bonus whores may clear bonuses faster (but lose more to the rake in the process).

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If this is true, then there is probably no brightside since to get a point count towards bonuses, the rake must be minimum 0.25.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Absolute raking from pots that never see a flop

Are you talking after a flop is seen? Doesn't every site have a "no flop" "no drop" policy?
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Absolute raking from pots that never see a flop

Below are our rake tables. The standard rake at a full table is 5% up to $3. It is our policy not to charge a rake if there is no flop ("no flop no drop").

Fixed Limits
Table Limit # of Players Rake Collected
$0.02/$0.04 2 or more $0.01 for each $0.20 in pot, maximum $0.10
$0.10/$0.20 2 or more $0.05 for each $1.00 in pot, maximum $0.25
$0.25/$0.50 2 or more $0.05 for each $1.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
$0.50/$1.00 2 or more $0.10 for each $2.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
$1.00/$2.00 2 or more $0.25 for each $5.00 in pot, maximum $2.00
$2.00/$4.00 2 to 3 $0.50 for each $10.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
$2.00/$4.00 4 to 5 $0.50 for each $10.00 in pot, maximum $2.00
$2.00/$4.00 6 or more $0.50 for each $10.00 in pot, maximum $3.00
$3.00/$6.00 2 to 3 $0.50 for each $10.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
$3.00/$6.00 4 to 5 $0.50 for each $10.00 in pot, maximum $2.00
$3.00/$6.00 6 or more $0.50 for each $10.00 in pot, maximum $3.00
$5.00/$10.00 2 to 3 $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
$5.00/$10.00 4 to 5 $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $2.00
$5.00/$10.00 6 or more $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $3.00
$10.00/$20.00 2 to 3 $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
$10.00/$20.00 4 to 5 $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $2.00
$10.00/$20.00 6 or more $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $3.00
$15.00/$30.00 2 to 3 $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
$15.00/$30.00 4 to 5 $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $2.00
$15.00/$30.00 6 or more $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $3.00
$25.00/$50.00 2 $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
$25.00/$50.00 3 $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $2.00
$25.00/$50.00 4 or more $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $3.00
$50.00/$100.00 2 $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
$50.00/$100.00 3 $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $2.00
$50.00/$100.00 4 or more $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $3.00


No Limit and Pot Limit
Table Limit # of Players Rake Collected
All Limits 2 to 3 $0.05 for each $1.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
All Limits 4 to 5 $0.05 for each $1.00 in pot, maximum $2.00
All Limits 6 or more $0.05 for each $1.00 in pot, maximum $3.00

I just copied this from AP a minute ago.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: Absolute raking from pots that never see a flop

This info is not updated. I'm watching the "new" 75/100 table (50/100 is no longer available with the latest software upgrade) and the rake is $5!!!
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Absolute raking from pots that never see a flop

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It is our policy not to charge a rake if there is no flop ("no flop no drop").

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I've seen this happen at least 2 times today. It was at limit $0.50/1 and $1/2.

Also the points towards the bonus are not accumulating for every hand that they should.
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