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04-08-2005, 02:22 AM
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Today\'s Party conspiracy theory at the table or, \"The wisdom of Sammy\"
I promised this fellow player I would pass along his wisdom and advice to some buddies, so I'm fulfilling that promise.
<font color="purple">The setup -- I'm at a .5/1 table, and a guy (Sammysays) is doing the "LOL" whine after losing some hands. Then I limp in late pos w/A-3 suited and catch a straight AND flush draw on the flop. I stick around for the turn and hit a str8 flush, beating Sammysays' flopped trips. </font> Dealer: Bruin_Eric shows a straight flush, five high. Dealer: Sammysays doesn't show Dealer: Flobewan doesn't show #1862061909: Bruin_Eric wins $11.25 from the main pot with a straight flush, five high. Sammysays: roflmao Sammysays: I flopped a set ..and cant win..weeeeeeeeeee..I love this corrupt sh=thole Bruin_Eric: yeah, sets ALWAYS win in real life Sammysays: feeeeeeeeed..the fish <font color="purple">Then, a couple hands later, he loses and I chime in like a jerk, and then the lesssons begin (sorry folks)</font> #1862143480: Flobewan wins $9.75 from the main pot with three of a kind, jacks. Sammysays: so sick Bruin_Eric: i thout you wanted sets to win Flobewan: lol Sammysays: lauging so hard at those setups my side hurts..lol Bruin_Eric: if you think it's rigged, then you playing is a sign of a problem Bruin_Eric: i don't play 3card monte downtown Sammysays: if you think its random..your a fool Bruin_Eric: get help, only addicts play something they KNOW they are destined to lose Sammysays: thats the thing..I win..because i accept the way its wrong..and adjust..just dont like it Bruin_Eric: ah, well...best of luck to you <font color="purple">Then the guy wins several hands out of one round...and I chime in again because I'm a prick -- and then the supremo complete lesson begins. I promised the guy I'd pass on his wisdom to some buddies.</font> #1862293705: Sammysays wins $4 #1862297433: Sammysays wins $3.75 from the main pot with a pair of sevens. #1862302582: Sammysays wins $8 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and sixes. #1862324228: Sammysays wins $9.25 from the main pot with a flush, queen high. Bruin_Eric: i guess the whining is gonna stop now? Sammysays: blow me small fry Bruin_Eric: if you're so tough, why don't you hang out at the 15/30 tables instead of just slumming with us at .5/1 Bruin_Eric: i play for fun...i don't think its rigged. Party makes money whether you win or lose Bruin_Eric: So since you are so freaking dominant at this game, move up in levels Sammysays: well since you asked..i will tell you dribble stick Bruin_Eric: ok Sammysays: another little thing they do to you in here is after a cashout...( I know you dont do those)..but...when you actually take money out... Sammysays: they screw you for about 24 hours on bad beats Sammysays: they are over the top with them Sammysays: set you a table you must play...then rip you on the river and impossible crap..time after time Sammysays: but about a year ago Sammysays: I figured it out.. Bruin_Eric: don't you cashout to neteller? Sammysays: after I cash Bruin_Eric: it's instantaneous Sammysays: lmao Sammysays: you dont get Sammysays: it Sammysays: you get punished in here Sammysays: for cashing out Sammysays: they feed the fish back part of it Sammysays: so..after I cash out now Sammysays: I play about 1200 hands down here Sammysays: cant lose much..and work off my screwing for winning Sammysays: but still had bad play and bad beats... Sammysays: I normally play ten twenty and 5-10 Sammysays: at the 30 /tables..too many working in teams talking on the phone Sammysays: its true..take it as you will Sammysays: go to higher level tables where better players are ..those who cash often..and ask around Bruin_Eric: can I quote you on that, I have a few friends I'd like to tell this info to Bruin_Eric: my problem with you is that if I thought a site was rigged, I wouldn't play Sammysays: they steal from the odds of the strong pairs hitting..and feed the little pairs..but on paper..odds of trips come out the same...they just manipulate it a bit Sammysays: to keep more money in the pocets of those who feed the rake Bruin_Eric: maybe if you cash out and don't play for 24hr you escape your curse? Sammysays: just be like the rest of the cattle that come in here...dont watch..dont listen and learn from those who have played countless thousands of hands...just accept what they tell you..and be happy..if it works for you..then its all good pal Sammysays: have tried many things over the last three years Sammysays: there is an amount of hands that must be cleared Sammysays: ask around Sammysays: dont trust me Sammysays: but at least..listen Bruin_Eric: i told you...i will pass on what you said to some buddies, i always keep an open mind Sammysays: dont be too stuborn to learn Sammysays: it make sound far fetched..but remember this Sammysays: where money is involved..there is always corruption Sammysays: ALWAY Sammysays: be it the church..the goverment..wherever..money means corruption Sammysays: its offshore Sammysays: no laws Sammysays: no nothing Sammysays: you have millions of people ..mostly dumbasses new to the game Sammysays: they have no clue what is supposed to happen Sammysays: no clue of odds Sammysays: IF..they just tweek it so the rake goes up ten percent..only ten percent mind you...multiply that times 1.8 billion hands Sammysays: thats the answer when someone says..why would they cheat..they make lots of money already..lmao Sammysays: 1.8 billion Sammysays: I have known for a long time..the board cards are wrong Sammysays: so Sammysays: I pulled a hand history Sammysays: a hundred thousand hands Sammysays: and did some reasearch Sammysays: the five board cards ..offers up a straight or flush draw...or both...79.8 percent of the time Sammysays: thats exactly 10.9 percent ..too high 
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04-08-2005, 02:53 AM
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Re: Today\'s Party conspiracy theory at the table or, \"The wisdom of Sammy\"
You should have told him how after winning a hand, you only have a 10% chance to be dealt a winning hand in the next pot.
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#5
04-08-2005, 03:09 AM
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Re: Today\'s Party conspiracy theory at the table or, \"The wisdom of Sammy\"
I worked out ..a system ..to beat this. You gotta ..sit out ..and play a 6max hand ..RIGHT after winning a pot..STICK IT TO THE MAN
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#7
04-08-2005, 07:20 AM
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Re: Today\'s Party conspiracy theory at the table or, \"The wisdom of Sammy\"
Shiney side out.
[ QUOTE ] [snip] Sammysays: another little thing they do to you in here is after a cashout...( I know you dont do those)..but...when you actually take money out... Sammysays: they screw you for about 24 hours on bad beats Sammysays: they are over the top with them Sammysays: set you a table you must play...then rip you on the river and impossible crap..time after time Sammysays: but about a year ago Sammysays: I figured it out.. Bruin_Eric: don't you cashout to neteller? Sammysays: after I cash Bruin_Eric: it's instantaneous Sammysays: lmao Sammysays: you dont get Sammysays: it Sammysays: you get punished in here Sammysays: for cashing out Sammysays: they feed the fish back part of it Sammysays: so..after I cash out now Sammysays: I play about 1200 hands down here Sammysays: cant lose much..and work off my screwing for winning Sammysays: but still had bad play and bad beats... Sammysays: I normally play ten twenty and 5-10 Sammysays: at the 30 /tables..too many working in teams talking on the phone Sammysays: its true..take it as you will Sammysays: go to higher level tables where better players are ..those who cash often..and ask around Bruin_Eric: can I quote you on that, I have a few friends I'd like to tell this info to Bruin_Eric: my problem with you is that if I thought a site was rigged, I wouldn't play Sammysays: they steal from the odds of the strong pairs hitting..and feed the little pairs..but on paper..odds of trips come out the same...they just manipulate it a bit Sammysays: to keep more money in the pocets of those who feed the rake Bruin_Eric: maybe if you cash out and don't play for 24hr you escape your curse? Sammysays: just be like the rest of the cattle that come in here...dont watch..dont listen and learn from those who have played countless thousands of hands...just accept what they tell you..and be happy..if it works for you..then its all good pal Sammysays: have tried many things over the last three years Sammysays: there is an amount of hands that must be cleared Sammysays: ask around Sammysays: dont trust me Sammysays: but at least..listen Bruin_Eric: i told you...i will pass on what you said to some buddies, i always keep an open mind Sammysays: dont be too stuborn to learn Sammysays: it make sound far fetched..but remember this Sammysays: where money is involved..there is always corruption Sammysays: ALWAY Sammysays: be it the church..the goverment..wherever..money means corruption Sammysays: its offshore Sammysays: no laws Sammysays: no nothing Sammysays: you have millions of people ..mostly dumbasses new to the game Sammysays: they have no clue what is supposed to happen Sammysays: no clue of odds Sammysays: IF..they just tweek it so the rake goes up ten percent..only ten percent mind you...multiply that times 1.8 billion hands Sammysays: thats the answer when someone says..why would they cheat..they make lots of money already..lmao Sammysays: 1.8 billion Sammysays: I have known for a long time..the board cards are wrong Sammysays: so Sammysays: I pulled a hand history Sammysays: a hundred thousand hands Sammysays: and did some reasearch Sammysays: the five board cards ..offers up a straight or flush draw...or both...79.8 percent of the time Sammysays: thats exactly 10.9 percent ..too high [/ QUOTE ]
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#9
04-08-2005, 07:55 AM
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Re: Today\'s Party conspiracy theory at the table or, \"The wisdom of Sa
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Sammysays: I normally play ten twenty and 5-10 Sammysays: at the 30 /tables..too many working in teams talking on the phone [/ QUOTE ] %s/the phone/AIM/
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#10
04-08-2005, 07:58 AM
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Re: Today\'s Party conspiracy theory at the table or, \"The wisdom of Sammy\"
I used to think the same way until yesterday. I went to casino for third time in my life.Played 1/2 NL $100max buy in. I have AA flop comes Ax3 i go aLL IN VS A2. Runner Runner 45. I have JJ Flop comes Jxx with one heart. I go all in vs 7h5h.You know the rest.This lasted for the 3 hours i was there. All the big hands were getting outdrawn by people cold calling str8 and flush draws.I am pretty sure the cards were not rigged but i have been wrong before.
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