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07-02-2005, 07:15 PM
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Re: Analyse this
The Democrats don't say so. They get on TV today and act like they never signed that document. They act like they KNEW there were no WMD. Like they KNEW there was no link between Iraq and Al-Qaida.
These claims are clearly false. They were apparently so afraid that they might have been true that they were willing to sign this document to protect themselves. 
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#43
07-03-2005, 12:14 AM
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Wrong-o
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The Democrats don't say [this was wrong]. They get on TV today and act like they never signed that document. [/ QUOTE ] Can you provide us with one example of a Democrat going on TV and claiming he or she never signed "that document", while he or she actually did? Shouldn't be too hard to find such an example, since they all do it. [ QUOTE ] [The Dems] act like they KNEW there were no WMD. Like they KNEW there was no link between Iraq and Al-Qaida. [/ QUOTE ] The war's opponents, including some Democrats, have always maintained that the evidence for the existence of WMDs or aa link between Qaeda and Saddam were flimsy and unconvincing, at best. Being forced to make a choice, and irrespective of the political pressure extant at the time, a lot of the war's opponents signed on the "document". (Having only Yes or No as choices, a person who faces two questions will answer Yes or No, even if the probabilities are vastly different each time. Here's where true courgae should have come in, from the war's opponents' side: They should have refused to sign on and then adopt a third platform of political/military policy regarding the war on terror.) [ QUOTE ] [The Democrats] were apparently so afraid that [the claims about WMDs and al Qaeda] might have been true that they were willing to sign this document to protect themselves. [/ QUOTE ] Well, this is too far fetched, really, (if they knew the claims might've been true, they would've handled things differently) but say anything you want about those cowardly Dems, I'd agree with ya!
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#44
07-03-2005, 12:24 AM
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Re: Analyse this
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They act like they KNEW there were no WMD. Like they KNEW there was no link between Iraq and Al-Qaida. These claims are clearly false. They were apparently so afraid that they might have been true that they were willing to sign this document to protect themselves. [/ QUOTE ] Most republicans knew the claims probably were false too, and signed as well. The information about its lack of credibility was available before this joint resolution was signed and would be within reach of every congressman. It was available here, 6,000 kilometres away, in non-intelligence circles for xxxxxxx's sake. All informed people who signed it were either cynical or cowards.
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#45
07-03-2005, 12:30 AM
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Rodney King\'s Assailants Not Guilty, Walk
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Maxine Waters ...She's probably the biggest buffoon in Congress [/ QUOTE ] Well, I don't know about you, but anyone who has the courage to stand up against such a vast majority in Congress (or elsewhere) has my admiration. And I would be careful before calling him or her names. [ QUOTE ] This is a woman who excused the 1992 Los Angeles riots as a "rebellion." [/ QUOTE ] What was the cause of those riots? Was it only an attempt by criminals to overthrow the government? Or was it something else which deteriorated someplaces in mob violence and looting?
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#47
07-03-2005, 09:06 AM
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Re: Rodney King\'s Assailants Not Guilty, Walk
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And I would be careful before calling him or her names. [/ QUOTE ] O.K. how about this: Maxine Waters is one of the most hate filled racially bigoted people in congress. She has accomplished nothing in 10 years in the House besides obstruction except for forcing one of the House committees to hire 2 black staffers. She’s the one who went to Damian Williams’s house (the guy who hit Reginald Denny in the head with a slab of concrete then did a victory dance over his unconscious body) and called him a hero. Lots of compromise and understanding here.
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#48
07-03-2005, 12:24 PM
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Maxine Walters, dissenting
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Maxine Waters ... went to Damian Williams’s house (the guy who hit Reginald Denny in the head with a slab of concrete then did a victory dance over his unconscious body) and called him a hero. [/ QUOTE ] If she did that (I truly do not know), then that was extremely short-sighted, stupid and irresponsible of her. [ QUOTE ] Maxine Waters is one of the most hate filled racially bigoted people in Congress. She has accomplished nothing in 10 years in the House besides obstruction [/ QUOTE ] You piqued my curiosity about her background! Here's some info on Ms Walters: [ QUOTE ] In 1973 Waters went to work as chief deputy to City Councilman David Cunningham. In 1976, she quit her job and successfully ran for election to the California State Assembly. After serving for fourteen years in the California State Assembly, in 1990 Waters successfully ran for a seat in the 29th Congressional District of California. <font color="white"> . </font> In November 2002, she was elected to her seventh term in the House of Representatives with an overwhelming 77.6 percent of the vote. [/ QUOTE ] Doesn't sound like a run-of-the-mill poltico to me! And that's certainly no "10 years" of service! But there's more: [ QUOTE ] Maxine Waters brought national spotlight to the allegations of CIA involvement in the Contra cocaine drug trafficking in South Central Los Angeles[/b] in the mid-1980s. <font color="white"> .</font> She has called for redirecting the resources of the so-called war on drugs to prevention and treatment, and for repealing mandatory minimum sentencing laws for minor drug offenses. <font color="white"> .</font> She was responsible for ... the nation’s first statewide Child Abuse Prevention Training Program; the prohibition of police strip searches for nonviolent misdemeanors; and the introduction of the nation’s first plant closure law. <font color="white"> . </font> She was instrumental in ... creating a “Center for Women Veterans,” among others. <font color="white"> .</font> In the mid-80s, she also founded Project Build, working with young people in Los Angeles housing developments on job training and placement. <font color="white"> .</font> Following the 1992 civil unrest, she founded Community Build, the city’s grassroots rebuilding project. <font color="white"> .</font> Rep. Waters was a key figure in Congressional efforts to restore to power Haiti’s democratically-elected President Jean-Bertrand Aristide. She also was arrested in front of the White House urging justice for Haitian refugees and the restoration of democracy in Haiti. [/ QUOTE ] Although this was taken from Congress web pages, it seems like she is more than a "racial bigot" or an obstructionist.
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