ONLINE 15. KQo. HOW DID I DO.

[TStoneMBD]

HJ is a Tag player who knows im also a tag/lag. he knows my 3 betting range here is probably quite large.

BT is a weird calling fish. the type who loves to chase, who never folds and doesnt raise until the river and only if he has a strong hand. his preflop coldcalling 3 bet range is ahead of me on average and hes not folding on the flop or turn regardless of his holding and will probably take any ace to the showdown. i checked the flop hoping he would oblige in checking behind.

HJ opens, I 3bet in the CO with KQo. BT calls 3 cold, Blinds fold HJ calls.

Flop is 932 with 2 spades. I have the Qs

HJ checks, I check (?), BT bets, HJ and I both call.

Turn is a 7h

HJ checks, I check, BT bets, HJ folds I call getting 8:1(?)

River is a K

I bet, BT raises, I call

[cartman]

In my opinion the flop call is marginal and the turn call is poor. When he raises the river it sure looks you are beat, but in a pot that size I would reluctantly call although maybe if I were a better player I would fold.

Cartman

[kurosh]

Hi flawless,

I would not bet the river. If I did bet, I would fold to a raise.

If he is as passive as you make him out to be, then maybe the turn is a fold though.

[Zele]

What action do you prefer to betting the river? This guy sounds like the textbook candidate for the river bet/fold. I can't see check/folding here, and I really can't see check/calling.

[kurosh]

even thugs gotta learn to take it easy

[dave44]

I don't think your making money off that turn call. Do you think this villain would call hands like KJ, JTs, and 44 for 3 bets and bet the flop and turn? Without these mediocre holdings, 8:1 is not enough. He's got you dominated to just 3 outs or just plain drawing dead a bit too often.

humm, why is your range of 3bet hands so large as you acknowledge...If he knows ur likely to 3 bet, wont he slow down his raises on crappier hands? I dont get myself into this costly situation...
call river and look at his ugly 2 pr

[Grisgra]

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humm, why is your range of 3bet hands so large as you acknowledge...If he knows ur likely to 3 bet, wont he slow down his raises on crappier hands? I dont get myself into this costly situation...
call river and look at his ugly AK or set

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fyp -- I don't put villain on two pair here, but I agree we're behind, and I agree with Kurosh that if you're going to bet the river, against this opponent you probably need to fold to a raise. (On the other hand, I've had opponents raise me here with stuff like JJ or QQ when I donked into them when my A hit and I was calling down with AK. This doesn't seem like that kind of player, though.)

I think peeling on the turn is probably bad -- too likely that our outs are dirty.

[Victor]

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humm, why is your range of 3bet hands so large as you acknowledge.

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bc the openraisers range is very large here. so tstones hand is still, on average, better.

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If he knows ur likely to 3 bet, wont he slow down his raises on crappier hands?

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we would like this right?

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I dont get myself into this costly situation...

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you are losing money here. what stakes do you play?

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call river and look at his ugly 2 pr

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its proly better to fold.

[gaming_mouse]

Lets say his 3bet range is 99+, AQ+. Is that off?

AA - 6,0
KK - 3,0
QQ - 3,3
JJ - 6,6
TT - 6,6
99 - 6,0
AK - 12,3
AQ - 12,3

avg 2.8 outs. even the flop call is marginal, the turn certainly.