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Old 10-06-2005, 11:12 AM
meow_meow meow_meow is offline
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Default Been caught stealing....

I'm a bit lost on this hand.
First of all, I'm usually folding this here, mixing it up with a raise maybe 20% of the time (my ASB is around 31%).

Oops. When it comes back to me capped, I can't fold getting 5:1 can I?

On the turn, I'm trying to get the button out if he's on overs. I'm folding to a 3-bet.

Bet the river?

Comments appreciated.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

River: (12 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 12 BB
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:35 AM
Roy6 Roy6 is offline
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Default Re: Been caught stealing....

I didn't do the maths but your position sucks, I would fold it preflop after capped.
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:46 AM
kidcolin kidcolin is offline
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Default Re: Been caught stealing....

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Oops. When it comes back to me capped, I can't fold getting 5:1 can I?


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I can.
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:46 AM
DMBFan23 DMBFan23 is offline
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Default Re: Been caught stealing....

5-1 odds really aren't that great, not enough to justify this call...and when it's 10-2 you have to make back more postflop to make it a worthwhile investment here...I'd rather call 1 getting 5:1 than 10:2.

this is a really easy fold preflop, IMO. both times.

also, I steal this from the button only against tight blinds, and my ASB% is like 38, our standards must be really different.
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:47 AM
DrSavage DrSavage is offline
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Default Re: Been caught stealing....

I like fold preflop both originally and when it comes back 2 more bets to you.
Bet the river though.
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: Been caught stealing....

I raise the flop here because it's difficult for the button to call two cold with the prospect of calling two more, and if he 3bets you can often get away from your hand. Also the river is an easy bet.
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:54 AM
Wynton Wynton is offline
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Default Re: Been caught stealing....

I would have folded pf, both times. Once you hit top pair, I'd have raised the flop. I don't think you gain much by waiting till the turn.
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:07 PM
meow_meow meow_meow is offline
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Default why bet the river?

Can you guys who want me to bet the river explain why?

Feels like I'm not dropping any hands I'm beating, most players will just call down with an overpair. Am I really getting calls from an ace here often enough to make it +EV?
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: why bet the river?

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Am I really getting calls from an ace here often enough to make it +EV?

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Yes.

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Old 10-06-2005, 12:29 PM
joker122 joker122 is offline
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Default Re: Been caught stealing....

i'm not sure what's worse - the first preflop decision or the second. probably the second.
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