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Old 12-05-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Another JT hand. OESD on rb flop

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero ...?
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Another JT hand. OESD on rb flop

I would bet. You probably won't get the amount of calls you want (which is 0 or 4), but with no one really showing any interest so far, your pair outs look like they might be worth something (and if someone folds a hand like AT, well, then a ten might give you the best hand when it wouldn't have otherwise).

A bet might get you the Button on the turn, too, which would have its benefits. And if you happen to get 3 calls, the bet should be for value (though it would suck if someone else also had JT). And if you only get a single caller, you may be able to take it down with a follow-up semibluff on a turn blank.
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: Another JT hand. OESD on rb flop

Gotta bet it. You have the high end of the OESD and a backdoor flush draw and what may be two overcards since no one is showing an interest in betting a king.
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Another JT hand. OESD on rb flop

Bet, you have pot equity advantage against 4 players and you may get a free card if you miss on the turn.
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Old 12-05-2005, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Another JT hand. OESD on rb flop

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Gotta bet it. You have the high end of the OESD and a backdoor flush draw and what may be two overcards since no one is showing an interest in betting a king.

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Is it still a clear bet without the backdoor flush draw?
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Old 12-05-2005, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: Another JT hand. OESD on rb flop

Easy bet. I'm happy as long as I don't get exactly one caller or two callers including MP2. That leaves a lot of scenarios in your favor.

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Old 12-05-2005, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Another JT hand. OESD on rb flop

Thanks, all.

I bet, MP2 called, and everyone else folded.

Turn and river were both queens. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-05-2005, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: Another JT hand. OESD on rb flop

Barring a read I bet for a free card everytime.
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Old 12-05-2005, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: Another JT hand. OESD on rb flop

Easily a bet. No one has shown interest, BD flush drawn and overs to two of the board makes this an easy bet. You don't want to give a gut shot a free card and getting a QT or AT to fold would buy some outs.
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Old 12-05-2005, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Another JT hand. OESD on rb flop

I think I would still bet it. If my bet causes MP2 to fold, I am now the Button and if not, I am still are in good position to react to the turn card and the action or lack thereof in front of me. Removing the backdoor flush draw would weaken my hand, but given my position, I would still bet it. If I bet, I would probably see the betting checked to me and I get to decide whether I want a free river card or not.
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