Getting even lower

[Gamblor]

Just when you thought they couldn't get any lower

Israel says a Palestinian woman arrested carrying explosives at a Gaza checkpoint planned to blow herself up in an Israeli hospital.

Wafa al-Bis, 21, was stopped on her way to receive treatment for burns at the Beersheba hospital which Israel says was her intended target.

The Israeli military said Ms Bis was stopped by suspicious soldiers at the Erez crossing point between Gaza and Israel.

The army said she had tried to blow herself up there but the explosives did not detonate.

Israeli officials said Ms Bis, who comes from the Jabaliya refugee camp in Gaza, was burnt in a cooking accident five months ago, and had received treatment on humanitarian grounds in the Beersheba hospital.

They said she was making another trip for follow-up treatment on Monday, but planned to blow herself up instead.

This story should indicate to all of you the stark contrast between the Israeli and PLO societies. While Israelis have been besieged by terror, they have still maintained their humanitarian values - even at risk to their own lives. On the other hand, the Arabs have exploited our humanitarian gestures, in order to fulfil the one thing they value more than their own lives - murdering Jews.


In an interview shown on Israeli television, Ms Bis said her "dream was to be a martyr".

Not "ending the occupation." Rather, because of systematic brainwashing that demonizes Jews and proclaims the killing of Jews while killing yourself as a one-way ticket to paradise.

In this case, who was responsible for this brainwashing?

She said she was recruited by the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades - an off-shoot of Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah faction.

Conclusions? Abbas is just as ugly as Arafat, except he's wearing a suit.

Meanwhile, the murderer-to-be has pleaded for mercy.

Despite her fallacious argument (she did not kill anyone due only to an "equipment malfunction", and no change of heart on her part), she doesn't even need to plea for mercy. She is not going to be executed (like suspected collaborators are in the Territories). She will do some time in jail, where she will be free to destroy as many Korans as she wants. Because that is the kind of society we have: one which values human life - even a life which does not value itself, let alone others.

[kurto]

Why is so hard for some to accept that they are in a war. Both sides routinely commit atrocities and are perpetuating a never ending cycle of violence?

[lastchance]

This post is by far the most worthwhile post I have read on the Politics forum today, no matter how biased it is.

[poker-penguin]

It's a nice change from the American bickering, that's for sure.

For the record, I support Israel and think they have been remarkably restrained in their response to decades of terrorism.

[Greg J]

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She said she was recruited by the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades - an off-shoot of Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah faction.

Conclusions? Abbas is just as ugly as Arafat, except he's wearing a suit.

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This is misleading, and the conclusion is questionable at best. It's like saying that just because David Duke is a registered Republican George Bush is a white supremesist.

You should give Abbas a chance. I mean it's kind of hard to control your own people when Israel has been blowing up your police stations. Granted, those police stations were often HQs for these kinds of attacks, and were letting suspects out the back door after being "caught" under Arafat.

Don't be disengenous. Give Abbas some time -- he has been doing reasonably well so far.

I sympathize with regular Israelis living with the fear of terror, and I grew up in an orthodox Jewish household. But seriously, you can't indescrimately fire missiles into apartment buildings and shoot back at kids that are throwing rocks. If you think innocent Palestinians are not also living in terror you are fooling yrself.

[Felix_Nietsche]

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[kurto]

LOL whatever.

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**Biting-from-a-post-of-mine-in-another-thread-and-from-conservative-pundits-at-the-same-time Alert**

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[Zygote]

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good post gamblor.

[mosta]

It's not so hard to be gracious and moral from a position of near-total victory with overwhelming military superiority. Are we supposed to be impressed that Jews don't drive their cars from their homes to blow themselves up in refugee camps?! You know from your study of history that Israeli Jews are not above using the bomb in the marketplace. Just the opposite, entirely. Plus, however many there may be that would love to load Arabs into box cars on a one-way trip (and we need not debate the number), they know that would probably cost them their foreign aid and patronage.