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Old 12-09-2005, 03:18 AM
defence18 defence18 is offline
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Default Did I screw this hand up?

I'm playing .25/.50 on Full Tilt with 9 players. I get QsQh UTG and raise. 3 folds, 1 caller, 3 more folds, including SB, and BB reraises. I pop it again, and both players call. Flop is 8s 5c 4s. BB bets out and I call (afraid of either AA or KK from one of the players). Other player raises, and BB reraises. What do you do? Results in white:

<font color="white"> I wind up thinking for a bit, then mucking. The original raiser calls and is all in. BB shows 9h 4h for bottom pair and all in player shows Ah 8h. I was none too happy.</font>

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Old 12-09-2005, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: Did I screw this hand up?

You have to raise this flop. How long have you been at the table? Any reads on opponents?
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Old 12-09-2005, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: Did I screw this hand up?

Not real long. 15 hands tops. No real reads on anyone. I felt that with all that action, its too easy for me to be beat. Guess I was wrong.
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Old 12-09-2005, 03:46 AM
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I just noticed the results. You should mention in your post that one player is almost all-in. This could factor in, as many players will just pick a hand and jam w/it when low on chips. Considering this, I say you have to stay in strong on this one. You really only have to worry about 1 player once the other guy is all-in.
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Old 12-09-2005, 05:08 AM
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I just noticed the results. You should mention in your post that one player is almost all-in. This could factor in, as many players will just pick a hand and jam w/it when low on chips.

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Agreed. And even if this wasn't the fact, you should raise the flop.
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Old 12-09-2005, 05:12 AM
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Default Re: Did I screw this hand up?

Without even looking at the hand...yes.
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Old 12-09-2005, 05:14 AM
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Default Re: Did I screw this hand up?

The exact same thing happened to me about a dozen times tonight. RAISE THE FRIGGIN' FLOP!!!!!
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:36 PM
defence18 defence18 is offline
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Default Re: Did I screw this hand up?

Ok thanks guys. I thought about mentioning that he was almost all-in, however, I didn't realize it at the time. While I know that it is something I should pay attention to in the future, I wanted to see what you would say without knowing this, which is in essence where I was in the hand. Thanks.
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: Did I screw this hand up?

Not raising this flop is something awful.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: Did I screw this hand up?

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I just noticed the results. You should mention in your post that one player is almost all-in. This could factor in, as many players will just pick a hand and jam w/it when low on chips. Considering this, I say you have to stay in strong on this one. You really only have to worry about 1 player once the other guy is all-in.

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Agree with this. Low stacks (I've been there) will pick a hand and go with it. Raise the flop to isolate. If reraised, I'd still consider a check/call to the end unless I get two overcards.
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