i openlimp on the button with Axo

TStoneMBD · #1 10-25-2005, 11:33 PM

bb is 53/3/.5 119 hands. sb is unknown.

i think i might start doing this move often. i do like this play but its worse with a 2/3 structure than a 1/2 structure. the problem with raising on the button with Ax is because you have reverse implied odds because when you flop an ace the action goes check/fold to you. by limping it you are telling them that you dont have an ace and your implied odds go up. if the bb is tight and you have a chance to take it down preflop then sure. but in this case i have no chance at all.

any thoughts?

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Hero bets

imported_leader · #2 10-25-2005, 11:41 PM

Against a very loose BB this is fine PF, IMO. He's decently passive thou so I don't think I'd take that line against him post flop.

#3 10-25-2005, 11:50 PM

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the problem with raising on the button with Ax is because you have reverse implied odds because when you flop an ace the action goes check/fold to you.

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If you are stealing sufficiently, this wont happen. My opponents dont know if I have A4, J8, Q5s, KQ or 22. If they constantly fold when an ace flops, you should be stealing even more. Huge profit there.

TStoneMBD · #4 10-25-2005, 11:57 PM

i hate being a jerk, but i want you to stop replying to my threads

#5 10-26-2005, 12:09 AM

This seems uncalled for.

On a different note, HPFAP talks about why limping from the button with ace rag is right against loose blinds.

ArturiusX · #6 10-26-2005, 12:13 AM

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i hate being a jerk

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Clearly you don't.

#7 10-26-2005, 12:14 AM

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You say the strangest things concerning poker theory though. I feel a great urge to respond.

In this case, if the blinds are loose, sure, then limping on the button is sometimes in order. No debate there at all.

However, considering your opponents folding after you raise when a scare-card-ace hits the flop as being a bad thing, thats just silly.

ArturiusX · #8 10-26-2005, 12:14 AM

The raise is a tight line between spewing and genius. If these guys are weak and your image is good, I kinda like it.

joker122 · #9 10-26-2005, 12:21 AM

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??? i thought bright's analysis was right on the money.

joker122 · #10 10-26-2005, 12:23 AM

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If these guys are weak and your image is good, I think you need to raise here.

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fyp.