Bubble hand from Stars 36+3 Sat

[Melchiades]

There is one 140 stack that will be all in with antes in 3 hands, and one 600 stack that will be all in before me. Do I take the gamble and call, or do I hope one of the two other shorties or some idiot mid stack busts before?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t5470)
MP1 (t2455)
MP2 (t18704)
CO (t19975)
Hero (t765)
SB (t6330)
BB (t16420)
UTG (t6255)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

[Exitonly]

need a little more details for how many yseats/people left.

[Melchiades]

23 people left, 22 seats. 23rd gets about $50.

[Exitonly]

yea i'm folding

[Doylestown]

I agree - definitely folding AK here. Dare I ask the question, do you also fold AA here?

[Exitonly]

yea, i'm not playing anything here...

vs two random hands you're 70% w/ AA.

the two short stacks will both have to go against two random hands too.. so they each have 33% chance to survive... So even if there was just one short stack between you and the seat, i think it's still a fold (though a close one) w/ two to go before you do, i think it's a clear fold any 2.

[Melchiades]

Pokerstove says AA is about 70% against two random hands, so I think AA might be a fold as well. Considering the two shorties who will probably be all in with a random hand in multiway pots. Also add the chance that some idiot will go all in. Guess folding AK here wasn't even close then.

Yea AA is a fold here too. You will get the ticket if you just check/fold.

Btw, nice avatar Melchiades. When I first saw it I was like "Didn't know he was a nature boy" and then the giraffe popped up and I started laugh. Nice one

[Sam T.]

Boy. Even if it's folded to you I think I muck this. You're going to get at least one and probably two spite calls here. Yeah, you're ahead, but not by much against two random hands.

Part of it would also depend on whether the other table is colluding to keep shorties alive, or if your table will do so for your benefit. (I think we've all seen tall stacks folding their blinds to shorty's push, just to be nice.)

Yuck.

[Melchiades]

The other table with the shorties seems very happy to bust shorties. Big stacks call the BB every hand to check it down. No colluding.

More info. Folded to me, SB has 1000 after posting so if I call it might be HU against BB.