Why Two Dimes Data Is Wrong (Continued...)

[Mendacious]

I played this hand recently on Prima, which really irritated me and I ran it on 2 dimes and the percentages only aggravated me further when I analyzed it as a 3 way hand.

** Game ID 579278870 starting - 2005-11-15 19:06:04
** Brave Starr [Omaha H/L] (0.50|1.00 Pot Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- sliwezia sitting in seat 1 with $114.53
- hazan-stepha sitting in seat 2 with $147.06
- Aifix sitting in seat 3 with $58.31
- lagiro sitting in seat 4 with $94.01
- TOLDYOUSO sitting in seat 5 with $66.99 [Sitting out]
- seminole2005 sitting in seat 6 with $98.97
- carnesio sitting in seat 7 with $19.00
- Mendacious sitting in seat 8 with $105.45 [Dealer]
- open_cobra sitting in seat 9 with $62.65
- udomyex sitting in seat 10 with $96.00

open_cobra posted the small blind - $0.50
udomyex posted the big blind - $1.00
carnesio posted to play - $1.00
** Dealing card to Mendacious: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
sliwezia folded
hazan-stepha called - $1.00
Aifix folded
lagiro called - $1.00
seminole2005 folded
carnesio checked
Mendacious called - $1.00
open_cobra called - $1.00
udomyex bet - $4.00
hazan-stepha called - $4.00
lagiro folded
carnesio called - $4.00
Mendacious called - $4.00
open_cobra called - $4.00

** Dealing the flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
open_cobra checked
udomyex bet - $21.00
hazan-stepha folded
carnesio went all-in - $16.00
Mendacious raised - $100.00
open_cobra folded
udomyex went all-in - $72.00
carnesio shows: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
udomyex shows: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

** Dealing the turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

** Dealing the river: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
carnesio wins $66.00 from the main pot
udomyex wins $154.00 from side pot 1

UDOMYEX called a huge raise all in on a hand where I came over him with was over 57% on the flop against 2 opponents, AND UDO's PE was a paltry .083.

pokenum -o8 ac 3c 8h 4s - 2h 5h 6s 6d - ah qs 2s 8d -- qc 2c 6h
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 666 enumerated boards containing Qc 2c 6h
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 251 254 412 0 467 0 9 0.576
6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 113 341 325 0 0 77 0 0.341
Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 35 71 595 0 0 381 9 0.083


HOWEVER,

If you view the hand as a heads up between UDO and I (which my raise really accomplished because of the short stack, UDO may be a 62/38 dog to me, which isn't nearly so bad, AND his call gets him some equity in a decent sized main pot.

cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 366 369 451 0 558 0 9 0.617
Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 173 451 369 0 0 460 9 0.383


So how you do the 2 dimes analysis is obviously very relevant to assessing the true odds the players had relative to various portions of the pot, not just as a whole.