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12-02-2005, 08:19 PM
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short stacked, what kind of hands do i want to get all in multiway
preflop
say i have around 20BB at a full table, all stacks cover me most have 100BB. i figure i probably want to avoid naked big pairs because they get very dominated by higher pairs. all wraps are probably good. but what about hands like A4sKJs 
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#3
12-02-2005, 08:25 PM
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Re: short stacked, what kind of hands do i want to get all in multiway
i'm not talking about pushing with these hands, i'm just saying if i have an oppurtunity to get like 4:1 or 5:1 what should i call with
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#4
12-02-2005, 09:27 PM
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Re: short stacked, what kind of hands do i want to get all in multiway
I would get it all in with any kind of playable hand including hands like 5667 and 3467 unsuited. Generally there is enough of a chance that you will be getting 4-1 on your 20BB and one or more of the other players will drop out
when they still had a chance to win the pot, giving you an overlay on your money.
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#5
12-02-2005, 09:48 PM
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Re: short stacked, what kind of hands do i want to get all in multiway
I don't agree that 5667 and 3467 are worth getting money all-in with (or even playing). In general, you should be playing tighter short-stacked as any hand you play becomes a significant portion of your stack. These garbage hands are only worth playing if double-suited, and even then, they are still marginal.
If it is all in before the flop, what is the most common winning hand? The answer is 2-pair. Whenever you have low cards, it's much more likely that somebody else's 2-pair beats your 2-pair.
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#6
12-02-2005, 09:56 PM
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Re: short stacked, what kind of hands do i want to get all in multiway
[ QUOTE ]
I don't agree that 5667 and 3467 are worth getting money all-in with (or even playing). In general, you should be playing tighter short-stacked as any hand you play becomes a significant portion of your stack. These garbage hands are only worth playing if double-suited, and even then, they are still marginal. If it is all in before the flop, what is the most common winning hand? The answer is 2-pair. Whenever you have low cards, it's much more likely that somebody else's 2-pair beats your 2-pair. [/ QUOTE ] If you some twodimes numbers on this hands versus 3 playable hands including high cards and high pairs you are probably going to want to amend your post. The poster said he's getting 4 or 5:1.
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#8
12-04-2005, 04:40 AM
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Re: short stacked, what kind of hands do i want to get all in multiway
These kinds of hands tend to have a [censored]load of equity in low and mid limit PLO games online because people overplay the crap out of big pairs and broadway cards. Anytime you are all in in a multiway pot with a low run or a low pair and two coordinated cards you are going to be neutral equity at the very least in these games and quite often a decent favorite. Beset's example was *somewhat* extreme but not really too far out. I'll put my stack in with 5677ss before I'll do the same with AKQJss.
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#9
12-03-2005, 01:14 AM
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Re: short stacked, what kind of hands do i want to get all in multiway
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I would get it all in with any kind of playable hand including hands like 5667 and 3467 unsuited. Generally there is enough of a chance that you will be getting 4-1 on your 20BB and one or more of the other players will drop out when they still had a chance to win the pot, giving you an overlay on your money. [/ QUOTE ] i figure hands like 5667 or 3467 fare worse than Axs + Kxs with someother broadway, but i'm not sure and really have no way to prove it (hence the thread) usually only 1 or 2 opponents will stay until showdown
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