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Old 06-20-2005, 08:26 AM
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Default Right time for a bluff raise?

Borgata 6/12

To set PF to sleep, the flop was almost always seen 5 handed or more, despite any raises, so I don't feel really bad for my PF call.

UTG+1 is really a really weak-tight young kid (I'm the only one younger than him at the table). He claims to play 10/20 and higher, but I think he sucks. He has flashed overpairs inadventently when folding to turn raises. He is a wuss.

Button and SB are somewhat LP, but they respect me and my raises.

I have 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and I'm in EMP

UTG+1 raises, I call, button calls, SB calls.

Flop: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

All check to UTG+1. I call, planning on raising any turn under 9 assuming no raises behind me (a very good assumption in this game.)

Any other I will either fold to UTG+1's bet or simply c/f.

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Old 06-20-2005, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: Right time for a bluff raise?

I don't think your post-flop plan is so bad given the descriptions of your opponents.

The PF call needs to be discussed because is not good for at least two reasons:

#1 - Against a raise from a weak-tight player you are likely dead-even or waaaay behind here.

#2 - You're never going to make up the bets that you need to against the Villians you describe.
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Old 06-20-2005, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: Right time for a bluff raise?

I don't like the pf call or the flop call. if you're feeling the steal though this is a decent spot for it, except that a T is a card that someone out there could very well have. you didn't say who else called. of course you'd rather do it heads up.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: Right time for a bluff raise?

I don't know who else called at the time I called. There was a check and a bet with one player to act behind me.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:48 AM
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Default Re: Right time for a bluff raise?

[ QUOTE ]
#1 - Against a raise from a weak-tight player you are likely dead-even or waaaay behind here.

#2 - You're never going to make up the bets that you need to against the Villians you describe.

[/ QUOTE ]

#1 I'm sure that I'm not looking so good here, but I hope that at least 4 other players will enter the pot behind me and pad it, as well as go to the river with my flopped set (unfortunately, the right opponents didn't call, just the tighter ones.)

#2 True, but the ones I hoped to be up against, I feel that I could have easily done so. The largest pot I won that night was when I flopped a set against the very opponents I was hoping to play. The called me down/played back at me with very little and all went to showdown.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:56 AM
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You had the knowledge of the players at the table at the time and made your decision accordingly - that's cool. Based solely on the information in your OP - which is all I had to comment on - it's a call that's losing $$ in the long run.
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