215 blind battle.. what do YOU do?

[raptor517]

***** Hand History for Game 3113966853 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Trny:17822512 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Tuesday, November 29, 02:42:36 EDT 2005
Table Table 67431 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: six2two10 ( $2174 )
Seat 2: Raptor_517 ( $1620 )
Seat 3: SOX1RED ( $1794 )
Seat 4: Pocket33Aces ( $1576 )
Seat 7: tutu22 ( $625 )
Seat 8: StraightPair ( $761 )
Seat 9: nutrol ( $565 )
Seat 10: PINGP3 ( $885 )
Trny:17822512 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Raptor_517 [ Qc 9h ]
>You have options at Table 68279 Table!.
SOX1RED folds.
Pocket33Aces folds.
tutu22 folds.
StraightPair folds.
six2two10: don't be scared pocket
nutrol folds.
PINGP3 folds.
six2two10: when I do call you're done
>You have options at Table 68864 Table!.
six2two10 raises [100].
Raptor_517 calls [75].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 6h, 2c ]
six2two10 bets [200].
Pocket33Aces: that's what I'm scared about!!
>You have options at Table 68868 Table!.
Raptor_517 raises [525].
six2two10 raises [650].
Raptor_517 ?

what do YOU do here.. i dont want to hear anyone say fold preflop cuz they suck. thoughts on the raise on the flop are fine as well. holla

[bluef0x]

Well I fold. I don't buy the minraise preflop right away, but that 3rd bet on the flop just smells too much like an overpair and the minbet makes more sense.

Raise on the flop is fine, it's a standard CB and I would think he had two overcards. I believe his reraise

[Irieguy]

I don't think you have any folding equity on the flop.

When you first sent me this hand I was playing 9493720398402 tables and quickly thought I would raise less if I was planning on folding. Now, taking more time, I don't think I would raise the flop. I would smooth call.

If I did raise the flop, I would fold to a re-raise of less than all-in by him. His chip stack is the key. This is one of those very few times in a SNG where top pair is so unlikely to be ahead that you simply cannot call a trap-sized bet from a biggish stack.

But I would say the flop raise is a mistake... and you once told me you never make a mistake in a hand you post. Will you stand by the assertion that your flop raise was the best available choice? Cuz if you do you suck and I'm never talking to you again.

Irieguy

[raptor517]

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and you once told me you never make a mistake in a hand you post

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i said i never make a mistake on a response to a post. but ill use it here. i dont feel a flop raise is wrong at all. i found out exactly what i needed to. that he had an overpair. i got away from it and still had 1k chips to work with. i dont hate the flop raise at all. holla

[Irieguy]

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i dont feel a flop raise is wrong at all. i found out exactly what i needed to... holla

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Are you sure you had to spend 525 to find out? There was really no better option?

Ok, you have justified quitting school to all the yahoos on this forum. Going back appears to have hurt your intelligence.

Irieguy

[raptor517]

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i dont feel a flop raise is wrong at all. i found out exactly what i needed to... holla

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Are you sure you had to spend 525 to find out? There was really no better option?

Ok, you have justified quitting school to all the yahoos on this forum. Going back appears to have hurt your intelligence.

Irieguy

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thats ok ill prolly quit again so i can start being smart once more. i think yer wrong btw. i think a raise is perfectly justified, and i feel it necessary to spend 525. holla

[bluef0x]

I agree with raptor as stated in my other post... and compared to your line it's spending 325 to be pretty darn certain where you're at right now. While calling only gives you some idea based on his next move.

[pooh74]

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i dont feel a flop raise is wrong at all. i found out exactly what i needed to... holla

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Are you sure you had to spend 525 to find out? There was really no better option?

Ok, you have justified quitting school to all the yahoos on this forum. Going back appears to have hurt your intelligence.

Irieguy

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thats ok ill prolly quit again so i can start being smart once more. i think yer wrong btw.

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Good for you raptor (not the quitting part). What ever happened to education for its own sake? Who friggin cares if school ever makes you a dime? Knowing things is good.

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You probably could've accomplished the same thing by raising a little less, but otherwise, raise/fold looks about right.

Edit: I guess anything less is a min-raise. whatever.

[ilya]

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i dont feel a flop raise is wrong at all. i found out exactly what i needed to... holla

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Are you sure you had to spend 525 to find out? There was really no better option?

Ok, you have justified quitting school to all the yahoos on this forum. Going back appears to have hurt your intelligence.

Irieguy

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thats ok ill prolly quit again so i can start being smart once more. i think yer wrong btw. i think a raise is perfectly justified, and i feel it necessary to spend 525. holla

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dude you're smart just transfer to a good school like Columbia or something, that way you can actually enjoy college cos there'll be plenty of people around who are as smart or smarter than you. even if you skip a lot of classes you'll still learn a lot in that setting. plus you'll be able to earn your tuition at my home game.

[RobGW]

Enlightened one, please explain your better option.