2/4 KK right line?

ryanghall · #1 12-24-2005, 04:58 PM

Villain is fairly loose passive. His stats are somewhere around 28/1.5/0.8 I think this is the right way to play this hand.. what do you guys think?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($394.65)
SB ($376.50)
Hero ($467.15)
UTG ($360)
UTG+1 ($152)
MP1 ($1009.05)
MP2 ($100.20)
MP3 ($394.05)
CO ($469.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $4, 3 folds, MP3 calls $4, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $20, UTG calls $16, MP3 calls $16, SB folds.

Flop: ($64) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $50, UTG calls $50, MP3 folds.

Turn: ($164) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $60, Hero raises to $397.15

amoeba · #2 12-24-2005, 05:19 PM

if he is passive then why check this turn?

ryanghall · #3 12-24-2005, 05:54 PM

Just because he is passive doesn't mean that he'll never bet it.

I checked because I want him to think he's ahead.

Ryan

iceman5 · #4 12-24-2005, 06:11 PM

I like that line alot better when theres no flush draw. It'll suck if he checks behind and hits a flush. (or if he has 44 and hits a straight)

MrFeelNothin · #5 12-24-2005, 06:35 PM

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Just because he is passive doesn't mean that he'll never bet it.

I checked because I want him to think he's ahead.

Ryan

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So this line might get you a small bet out of a hand that would have folded to a turn lead.

However, on this board I think it makes it really obvious what you have and allows him to stack you if hes got you beat and get away cheap if he has a one pair/draw combo type hand.

Also, iceman brings up a good point, a smart player will check a flush behind there.

I would just lead the turn for slightly more than the pot.

ryanghall · #6 12-24-2005, 06:37 PM

If I'm leading turn for a little more than pot, shouldn't I just push?

iceman5 · #7 12-24-2005, 07:15 PM

I dont know why you need to overbet the pot here. I would make it $125

FreakDaddy · #8 12-25-2005, 04:11 AM

I don't understand this line, and I don't consider those stats loose/passive. How many hands are we talking about here?
I think this is a great line if you want to get stacked ryan, otherwise I'd just lead this turn and continue to value bet with what is hopefully still the best hand. Why dump so much money hoping that he'll stack off with QQ-TT? Against a more aggresive opponent, perhaps this line would be alright, but for someoen that's passive, I'd say leading the turn is better.

#9 12-25-2005, 07:05 AM

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I think this is a great line if you want to get stacked ryan, otherwise I'd just lead this turn and continue to value bet with what is hopefully still the best hand. Why dump so much money hoping that he'll stack off with QQ-TT? Against a more aggresive opponent, perhaps this line would be alright, but for someoen that's passive, I'd say leading the turn is better.

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#10 12-25-2005, 06:50 AM

I like the way you played it, did he fold or what?