88 calling station proper?

#1 11-24-2005, 04:40 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em (NL$25) (10 handed) link

MP3 ($30.90)
CO ($43.30)
Button ($16.20)
SB ($29.50)
BB ($42.00)
UTG ($23.00)
UTG+1 ($3.09)
Hero ($29.40)
MP1 ($18.90)
MP2 ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 folds, MP3 raises to $1.00, 3 folds, BB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, MP1 folds, MP3 folds.

Turn: ($6.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00.

River: ($8.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $6.00, Hero calls $6.00.

Final Pot: $20.10.

4_2_it · #2 11-24-2005, 04:44 PM

Raise the river to $18. If he has a boat you will see the all-in 3-bet and you safely fold. I think you see other second best hads here like AT, KT, QT.

ansky451 · #3 11-24-2005, 04:57 PM

Raise to 18 then fold for the extra 7 dollars? No thank you

#4 11-24-2005, 04:58 PM

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Raise the river to $18. If he has a boat you will see the all-in 3-bet and you safely fold. I think you see other second best hads here like AT, KT, QT.

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I agree that you need to raise this river, but what about the rest of the hand? I think I would have folded this on the flop.

Morrek · #5 11-24-2005, 04:59 PM

I would raise preflop, and raise flop. The rest looks good

#6 11-24-2005, 05:02 PM

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I would raise preflop, and raise flop. The rest looks good

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Please elaborate on why you would raise this flop. You have an underpair+low end of a three card straight with two flush cards on board in a raised pot, not to mention you are OOP.

I advocated a fold, please tell me why I am wrong?

(Not being a dick, just trying to learn.)

#7 11-24-2005, 05:03 PM

Raise preflop in mid position with 88? Aren't mid range PP's only raisable in tournament play and not cash games? How much would I raise then...4 x BB? What if there is a limper or two..still raise? What if I face a r/r...call looking for set value?

Morrek · #8 11-24-2005, 05:10 PM

I don't play 10max so I dunno if it's correct to raise 88 preflop, but I do it 90% of the time on 6max.

Raise flop because he's betting 1$ into 4$pot, and you have pair+oesd

#9 11-24-2005, 05:34 PM

Preflop's fine...I like raising the flop as well, but it just suits my style. I rarely let ppl bet 1/4 of the pot, especially when I have a piece of the board and good position.

hagelito · #10 11-24-2005, 06:36 PM

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Raise preflop in mid position with 88? Aren't mid range PP's only raisable in tournament play and not cash games? How much would I raise then...4 x BB? What if there is a limper or two..still raise? What if I face a r/r...call looking for set value?

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I guess standard is 3-4x and if you have callers add 1BB per caller.

If reraised, it depends on how tight or loose the player is and how big the reraise is.