Party 500k Hand.. thoughts..

raptor517 · #1 10-16-2005, 10:48 PM

***** Hand History for Game 2888409649 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:16637535 Level:18 Blinds (4000/8000) - Sunday, October 16, 22:42:21 EDT 2005
Table $500K Guaranteed(484499) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: jfo1804 ( $128796 )
Seat 2: Str8Bawlin ( $73042 )
Seat 3: rooster774 ( $372742 )
Seat 4: MannoR ( $218968 )
Seat 5: str8scoop11 ( $128457 )
Seat 6: lackingaces ( $310941 )
Seat 9: binda ( $150086 )
Trny:16637535 Level:18
Blinds (4000/8000)
** Dealing down cards **
meldas has joined the table.
Player meldas has been moved from table 4 to this table
str8scoop11 folds.
lackingaces raises [20700].
binda folds.
jfo1804 folds.
Str8Bawlin folds.
rooster774 is all-In [368742]
MannoR folds.
lackingaces will be using his time bank for this hand.
lackingaces folds.
rooster774 does not show cards.
rooster774 wins 401442 chips

ok so thats lacky playing the hand, and we were kinda discussing what we thought he would shove, etc.. so i wanted to know.. since im not too keen on the mtt math and such.. what kinda range u put him on shoving, and what kinda hands do you call with there? im pretty sure i fold JJ every time, QQ is real tough for me but i think i call.. KK - AA im not even considering fold. and F*** AK, thats hittin the mcuk auto. just wanted some thoughts. holla

Shilly · #2 10-16-2005, 10:51 PM

I'm watching this as we speak. My friend (Str8Bawlin) asked me if I would fold KK there if I was Lacky, and we both said we'd be insta-calling. I think I might fold QQ here as rooster could easily have AK and I don't want to pass up future +EV for a coinflip.

TomHimself · #3 10-16-2005, 10:58 PM

JJ-AA and AK I call with

adanthar · #4 10-16-2005, 11:00 PM

What are the payouts and how many people are left? I'm autofolding AK but I might call QQ based on the answer to this question...I dunno, it depends. Jacks are getting mucked, anyhow.

Scuba Chuck · #5 10-17-2005, 01:00 AM

LOL. (smartass comment - bump). Perhaps if he had called, he woulda finished higher than rooster????

What did he have?

Apathy · #6 10-17-2005, 03:29 AM

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LOL. (smartass comment - bump). Perhaps if he had called, he woulda finished higher than rooster????

What did he have?

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He had tens, we don't know what rooster had obviously.

Newt_Buggs · #7 10-17-2005, 03:31 AM

payouts are important.

I think that folding QQ would be very bad. Although its possible, for the most part I'm leaving AA/KK out of his hand range with that push. Whether I call with JJ I'm not sure, depends on payouts. I'de muck AK.

Exitonly · #8 10-17-2005, 03:40 AM

Depends how many people left i think...

but i'm probably calling QQ+, folding AK.

Thouogh in the situation, i might get fed up and make a stupid call w/ AKs.

iMsoLucky0 · #9 10-17-2005, 05:39 AM

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. How are you guys so sure you are going to fold Jacks here? Can the villian really have AA-KK or even QQ that often here? I mean, it seems as though those hands would probably get more tricky. Why would they scare off their action? If i'm Villain in this hand, I'm pushing a way wider range of hadns if I think my opponent will fold JJ there.

It seems way too tight to fold JJ in this spot.

Exitonly · #10 10-17-2005, 05:49 AM

If he pushes AQs+, AKo+, TT+, calling with JJ would be -cEV..

The blinds are still pretty small compared to those stacks (unless i'm reading wrong, and i'm too lazy to go back and check now) so i think i'd pass up marginal +cEV situations anyway.

Well, i take that back, it depends how deep into this we are... if this is 30 or less players left, i'm definitely going to pass up on the marginal +cEV situations. (with that 35BB stack)