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Old 09-29-2005, 11:54 PM
JohnnyFX JohnnyFX is offline
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You elaborated wrongly well though.

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Old 09-30-2005, 10:48 AM
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No, trust me. This is an incredibly easy fold.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt though, and posted this situation to the Micro-limit forum. The consensus there is to fold, too.

Maybe you'll want to head over to that thread and defend your reasons for calling.
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Old 09-30-2005, 11:23 AM
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I raise 42s here

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Raising is clearly superior to calling in this situation.
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Old 09-30-2005, 11:26 AM
timprov timprov is offline
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No, trust me. This is an incredibly easy fold.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt though, and posted this situation to the Micro-limit forum. The consensus there is to fold, too.

Maybe you'll want to head over to that thread and defend your reasons for calling.

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Posting in Micros about blind defense is kind of like going to OOT for deep thinking.

I consider defending with 42s standard.
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Old 09-30-2005, 12:55 PM
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No, calling in this situation is horrible.

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Then what do you defend your blind with? A premium hand?

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Clear this up for me. The pot is small, there's an UTG raiser (even if he IS on tilt). You have 4 high, sooted. Why bother playing here? Play tight in small pots, right?

Although if you're going to play, I do agree that raising is the correct play over calling.
If there were quite a few cold-callers between you and UTG, this might be worth a call, but generally I'll never voluntarily put money into a pot with 4 high, even if it is soooooooted.

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LMAO

I think you need to rethink your game. You elaborated wrongly well though.

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Old 09-30-2005, 02:27 PM
Eder Eder is offline
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No, trust me. This is an incredibly easy fold.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt though, and posted this situation to the Micro-limit forum. The consensus there is to fold, too.

Maybe you'll want to head over to that thread and defend your reasons for calling.

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Posting in Micros about blind defense is kind of like going to OOT for deep thinking.

I consider defending with 42s standard.

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Haha....I second your opinion of most micro posts..."fold preflop, call 1 off if flop hits, fold to check raise on turn...dont bet the river you'll only get called if beat"
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Old 09-30-2005, 03:02 PM
turaho turaho is offline
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Posting in Micros about blind defense is kind of like going to OOT for deep thinking.

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Are you actually trying to argue that UTG's preflop raise is a blind steal? This hand plays differently if it's button open-raising, but UTG? Seriously, even if he's tilting like mad, what hand range do you put him on?

Why are so many people eager to get in a hand out of position with an UTG raiser with the 2nd nut low? Why do most of the postflop strategies advocated here involve hoping to flop 2 pair? Have I seriously gone mad?
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Old 09-30-2005, 03:11 PM
timprov timprov is offline
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Are you actually trying to argue that UTG's preflop raise is a blind steal?

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No. It's not steal defense, but it's still blind defense.

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This hand plays differently if it's button open-raising

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This, however, is ridiculous. Button's range would be much larger, making handreading harder and the chance of being dominated much greater. I'll play the hand against either, but it's much easier againt UTG.
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Old 10-01-2005, 02:11 AM
siccjay siccjay is offline
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Have I seriously gone mad?

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No, but you might unless you admit that you are wrong. It's ok to be wrong.

In micro limits, this part of your game doesn't matter much at all because you are rarely if ever heads up.
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