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Old 08-19-2005, 04:24 AM
Larimani Larimani is offline
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Default Stupid fish (bad beat post)

ARGHRGHG stupid fish.

yes, it's a bad beat post.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em (NL$25) <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link

CO ($21.65)
Hero ($24.40)
SB ($15.46)
BB ($46.45)
UTG ($38.57)
MP ($53.39)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $2.65</font>, BB calls $2.50, UTG calls $2.50, MP calls $2.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises all-in ($12.71)</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG calls $12.71, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises all-in ($16.40)</font>, UTG calls $8.94.

Flop: ($69.76) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($69.76) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($69.76) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $69.76.
Results in white below:<font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qs Ah (a pair of sixes.)
SB has Tc Jc (two pairs, jacks and sixes.)
UTG has Ts 8s (two pairs, eights and sixes.)
UTG wins $17.88.
SB wins $49.88.
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:27 AM
wtfsvi wtfsvi is offline
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

Stupid fish indeed.

You should be happy though, not sad. Because you know their screennames.
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:38 AM
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

Stop beating up on yourself, everyone makes mistakes from time to time.
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:44 AM
BZ_Zorro BZ_Zorro is offline
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

You didn't even have a 50% chance of winning:

Hand 1: 46.7502 % { AhQs }
Hand 2: 31.3740 % { JcTc }
Hand 3: 21.8758 % { Ts8s }
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

incorrect. i lost the main pot AND the side pot.
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:04 AM
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If they're really bad, I think you can find a better spot to get your money in. I don't think you need to get into a raising war here.

I think somewhere in supersystem (this might have been in a different book, I don't remember), Doyle Brunson tells a story about getting into a raising war with a drunk when he had just a small edge. The drunk hit his flush and even though Brunson was a favorite, he lost all his money. The moral of the story was that against a really bad player you should wait until you know your edge is really big.
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:09 AM
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incorrect. I take all edges at 25NL. It's not like I'm playing with my whole bankroll in front of me.
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:13 AM
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incorrect. I take all edges at 25NL. It's not like I'm playing with my whole bankroll in front of me.

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Then you have to accept losing once in awhile when you're the favorite.
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:16 AM
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

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incorrect. I take all edges at 25NL. It's not like I'm playing with my whole bankroll in front of me.

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Then you have to accept losing once in awhile when you're the favorite.

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correct.
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:40 AM
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Hmmm, lets see...

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UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, 1 folds, Hero raises to $1.50

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I usually limp behind here at a full table. Short handed, this is standard.

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SB raises to $2.65, BB calls $2.50, UTG calls $2.50, MP calls $2.50, Hero...

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Let's see. SB says he has something good here. You don't mention any read. AQo versus a reraise sucks. Pokerstove AQo equity versus TT+/AJ+. My hunch is that you're looking in a number in the high 30's, and that's only because I threw in AJ. Still, you have position + excellent pot odds, so this is an easy call IMO.

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Hero raises to $6.50, SB raises all-in ($12.71), 1 folds, UTG calls $12.71, 1 folds, Hero raises all-in ($16.40), UTG calls $8.94.

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This is really bad in my opion. I'm really not sure what you're doing here.

FWIW, my basic philosophy these days on preflop all ins (and this includes 6 max) is that, barring an unusual read, I absolutely will not go to the felt with anything less than KK preflop. This is not a tournament, this is not the WPT, and AQo is NOT a big enough hand to go broke with.

Figure out what your pot equity would be against any two reasonable Villains here, given their likely hand range.

Oh, and add these guys to your buddy list [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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